Posted on 12/01/2005 4:27:07 PM PST by Dan Nunn
Yes, they do.
Regardless of where people live Alia, if they don't like what's going on, they must become involved. Otherwise, the only choice left is to run.
I've no disagreement here with what you've written. I gather what we disagree on is why you think people move away from CA. You think it's because of illegal immigrants or that they are running away from the "CA" problem. Think of the size of CA. 22 eastern/midwest states could fit into the size of CA. So, yes, CA is a huge "machine". Obviously, folks leaving CA are finding something they want "more of" elsewhere.
Actually most of the movement is within the state, folks moving to the inland empire, the San Luis Obispo area, the central valley, the Sierra foothills, etc. The climate remains an attraction which folks don't want to lose, if they can possibly avoid it.
The best climate and real estate on earth will only take California so far.
Beautiful Mohawk Power building, Syracuse. Art Deco, 1932. Miami Beach doesn't have anything close.
You will be welcome in Nevada.
With RE going as it has been, I think you are right on the money about folks moving "up", and moving around areas within the state. I'm sure that "movement" activity is far huger than the movement OUT of state.
Syracuse has the cheapest housing in the United States.
That's not a good sign, I don't think. A nice town, though, IMO.
Thank you. I've enjoyed my visits there; however, I've recently bought some land in Oregon and will be moving there when I can build.
Rock City...dang I haven't been there since the 60s
my great great great uncle was killed at Lookout Mountain...on horseback...odd eh?
we are both lucky to already be here...it's just going to get harder...i could not buy my house I live in now if i had to and I've only been in it 4 years
Merry Christmas to you too!
Quality of life is no problem for me. I don't live in LA or SF. I live in a super area, that is beautiful. With a perfect 72 degrees and sunny in the dead of winter, and near perfect summers, paying a little extra seems more than worth it. I'm growing tomatoes in December!! As far as regulations and the rest of their nonsense in Sacramento, like those in D.C. I just do my best to ignore them. One day we'll turn things around here. After all, even though we are a little out numbered here, we still have millions of conservatives, more than most other states.
Actually it just opened and is already carrying 10-15,000 riders a day. Most of it uses a converting an abandoned railroad right-of-way, so that 'special roadway' wasn't a big deal and very cost-effective. And using buses instead of light-rail was also a wise and cheaper decision.
We have a subway to nowhere in LA. It starts in LA and dumps into San Fernando valley. Eh, what's a few billion among friends.
That "subway to nowhere" carries more than 100,000 persons per day. Was still very, very expensive, in fact questionable, but if Democrat Henry Waxman hadn't blocked it from being completed to the employment-heavy and freeway-less west end of the Wilshire corridor, it would be one of the heaviest-used subway lines in the country, probably close to 250,000 per day.
There are lots of examples of major problems with LA, but those two probably aren't the best.
The new bus line operates 50 feet from an already active bus line on Victory for a considerable amount of it's route.
The LA Times states it does have 10-12,000 riders per day, but that's coming from a source that has a lot riding on the line looking successful.
The line crosses thirty-six streets, many of which are just 50 or so feet from another intersection. This will cause considerably more traffic congestion.
There are no rails, so the bus crossing is almost invisible, with lights that are so close to another intersection that people could easily confuse the lights with a need to stop at the one intersection that is pronouced, not the bus crossing.
LA transportation officials will tens of millions on a bus or rail line, but won't spend a few thousand dollars clearing parked cars off of main streets like Victory during rush hour.
The new line has had four accidents in five weeks. The Pasadena rail line has had three accidents in two years.
When is this new bus line projected to break even on cost? How many people riding now are paying passengers at the full fee? Do indigents get discount tickets or free monthly passes?
I grew up in the Ventura area and lived in Ojai before we moved...loved it.
Could not really explain to them how great it feels to sit on the front porch with a cup of hot tea watching it snow. It is so calming, covering all the ugly. When it is cold enough the snow sparkles like twinkle lights. Bundling up and walking in the snow, listening to the crunch underfoot. It is a feeling that is hard to describe. Unfortunately, I can't make the same sort of comments about walking in the sand on the beach, being eatin alive by every insect that lives on the body fluids of others.
Then of course there are the summers, short but enjoyable. Last year I did get a mosquito bite while sitting on the front porch.
Actually, we are happy most people would not enjoy living here.
They have high numbers because they have eliminated some routes that parallel the Orange Bus Line...
I think it is amazing that the bus line is averaging 22 mph across the Valley...that is far lower than projected.
Also, the MTA booted Terry Lumber from their Encino HQ because their property encroached on the old SPRR right of way.....SP never cared, because Terry Lumber was a large customer with dozens of lumber loads a week in the SFV and other Los Angeles branch lines.
But when the MTA built the Orange Line, they declared eminent domain on Terry....which in turn, led to their sale to Stock Building Supply (of N.C. I believe) a little later.
I think all the people riding the Orange Line are paying full fare....and I think all the accidents have been the result of people running red lights. You are welcome to park at an intersection and watch these idiots run the lights all day long.....they do it at every intersection.
I agree with the comment regarding people running red lights. That was the cause. You really have to keep your wits about you when driving these days. The caliber of drives seems to have plummeted in the last twenty years.
I was unaware of the Terry Lumber problem. Did the concern impede the intended bus line or was the MTA just acting like a bull in a china shop?
You may be right regarding the cut-back of the exixting bus lines on Victory, but I drive Victory during the week and I'm still dodging buses. I hadn't noticed a cut-back.
bttt
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