Posted on 12/01/2005 4:27:07 PM PST by Dan Nunn
When one little company like Nissan North America pulls out of a great big city like Los Angeles, does anyone even notice?
They do when Nissan is the 80th corporation to do so since 2002.
The automaker's announcement that it will leave L.A. for Nashville, Tenn., may have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
Just days after the announcement, the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp. fired off a letter to California's legislators, urging them to appoint a task force to consider changes in state tax and employment laws to help reduce business costs.
The 80 departing corporations are taking 13,000 jobs with them, the group says. And in an alarming shift, it warns that the corporate departures no longer are moving just midlevel jobs; they are claiming headquarters and r&d jobs, too.
........lol.
I'll take your word for it. We live in Northern California but we've been to the LA area twice in the last few months for our son's wedding and then to go on a cruise. If LA is losing business, you couldn't tell it by the traffic. Once we got over The Grapevine it was bumper-to-bumper, door-to-door for EVER.
And there I was thinking you were a Texan who needed to know the location of Orange County....lol. You can't jump to conclusions about screen names around here.
Wow! I really admire the way you stick up for your home town. You're a great booster. If the Chamber of Commerce or Tourist Bureau or whoever promotes LA was aware of you, I'm sure they'd hire you at a princely salary.
I could not agree more. Nice to see a common sense post.
I noted you still keep a boat in SD. You know, we went to AZ a couple of years ago, to look at property...Went in the summer, and we soon changed our minds. It was just too hot for me and my better half. Phoenix looked no different than So Cal except it was super hot. Reading some of these posts here about CA, you'd think the whole state was SF or downtown LA. I honestly don't think people realize how big CA is and how different many regions are compared to others.
See 32.
"Hello, Nashville!"
Yes, Phoenix is really hot in the summer. We're down in the East Valley right now but we're going to move up to the north end of the Phoenix area next year so we're closer to the mountains. From there, it's only a 90 minute drive up to Flagstaff to cool off and play some golf in the summer. We're going to take a lot of Fridays off and take long weekends up in the mountains next summer. California has great weather...unequaled in the US. You have to live there for a while to experience and understand the weather, scenery, and all the outdoor activities.
bttt
Besides the regulations and taxes, their employees cannot afford housing.
Yes sir. I've been all over the world, and most of this country too. No place like it. You know, the geography in CA is so varied, it seems to mirror every state in America. Plains, mountains, deserts, beautiful country regions, valleys, hills, coasts. It really has it all. But don't get me wrong. I really like the desert and AZ. I just can't deal with their long summers. I've spent a lot of time in CA deserts too. It's really odd, one can be in the middle of Orange County, near the coast, and a short drive later, you can be in the middle, of a vast desert. I really like it.
OK, damn it you two.....I've read enough of this thread now. Stop fighting or I'll turn this thing RIGHT around, you understand?
Usually, when one falls in love with a City (or area), there's some measure of reciprocation: Meaning, opportunities, friendships, jobs, safe ways for your children to grow, etc.
Living in an area for as long as you have (and I did) means also that you have POURED your life into an area. You've rooted. You've spread roots.
In a "metaphysical" manner, you've wed to the area. And your lover has proved massively disappointing. It is breaking your heart. Your lover's standards have gone bad, and she's dragging you with her, dinging and banging at you wrecklessly.
BunnySlippers is newly in love with the area.
DefenderSD is still having an affair with the area.
I guess it's better to at least see what's happned and feel some loss, than to be dead to feelings all together.
Exactly.
It's just so strange to see someone say they love the area, but can't imagine that anything has changed for the negative or that anyone should be upset about it. See mine above.
Best to you DoughtyOne. You have a standard and a history by which you have measured your "lover". Your lover has let you down. Grieviously. That's the part I think BunnySlippers has zoomed right on by. She's in love with the same "area" you used to be. That process of falling in "love" with an area is a crucial part of settling and bonding in an area.
I'm in "love" with my new location. Yes, the warts are showing, and I get to decide whether or not I accept those warts or not. So, you and BunnySlippers are at different places, and I think, talking past each other given your stage of "infatuation" with the area.
Yes, yes, the article I've hyperlinked is about "falling in love"; but I think some of it can be applied to where we choose to live and why.
To people in my new home locale who express shock that I would ever wish to leave the SF Bay Area, I reply -- visiting is different from living there. You should fulfill your life's dream -- and make tracks to LIVE THERE.
I know the area will either fit them, or chew them up and spit them.
Gee, you've taken all this rather personally, no? I don't perceive that DoughtyOne has suggested you feel as he does. I'm rather glad you are in LA. Now you can carry on the mantle of fighting the good fight, as the conservative and/or Republican I assume you are?
I wasn't going to post this, but I felt compelled to. After reading this thread, it seems there are a lot of conservatives that would rather run, or move away from a fight than stick it out, and fight for what they believe in and what is theirs. I've never seen so many people that are willing to give up and run.
If they run once, they'll run again. Doesn't say much for the them or future of America. As sure as the sun comes up, they will eventually run out of places to run to.
The answer -- I should have read before asking...
yep..Nissan corporate is relocating to Cool Springs...an affluent area to the south of Nashville about 20 miles...where several FReepers live btw
i'm much further in....urban but not...a pocket
lots of those Kali folks will be house-rich and will be buying some mcmansions i reckon
Last year my son sold a 1,450 sq. ft. house in Orange County for $558,000.00. He had lived in the house for around eight years. He paid $160,000.00 for it. He relocated to Charlotte, NC. Bought a 3,600 sq. ft. house and paid cash. about the only thing I notice about the cost of living is the price of gasoline.
Most are not leaving. Even Nissan acknowledge that two days ago on the news. They'd have to pay me 250k a year to leave the west coast and move to Tennessee.
Double the square feet for half the price, I reckon!
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