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The little yellow god. Even at $500, it's still a barbarous relic
The Economist ^ | Dec 1st 2005 | Unsigned

Posted on 12/01/2005 10:40:52 AM PST by .cnI redruM

NOTHING swells the breast so much as the thought that you have been proved right at last. After riding high at the start of the 1980s, gold bugs had a miserable couple of decades. The price declined relentlessly, mocking their credo that the security of the financial system ultimately depends upon the yellow metal. Lately, though, the faithful have enjoyed their reward. In the past five years the price of gold has doubled. This week in Asian trading it briefly surpassed $500 a troy ounce—a level last breached in 1987. You can almost feel the bugs' excitement as the message sinks in: gold is back.

This being gold, the resurgence has brought forth all manner of alarming prophecies. The price is an omen of rampant inflation; bonds are doomed; the dollar is about to fall prey to the United States' reckless deficits; the euro will shortly be revealed as a worthless creation of bureaucrats.

The world is an unpredictable place. But, with the possible exception of a fall in the dollar, not much of the above catalogue of doom looks likely; and none of it has much to do with gold's good run. The dull truth is much less bullish for gold. Investors have put money into a wide range of metals, and precious metals' prices, including gold's, have risen with the base. Meanwhile, gold remains fundamentally unattractive. It yields nothing and central banks are sitting on vaultfuls of the stuff that they want eventually to sell. Gold bugs hope that $500 is the threshold at which mainstream investors will start once again to take an interest in the metal. Caveat emptor.

Advertisement The fascination of gold lies in its being not only a commodity but also a store of value and means of exchange. The glamour and the mystique lie in the latter, monetary part. This is what draws gold bugs, but their story doesn't quite add up. The unbalanced world economy still faces risks. But the most recent rises in the gold price have come against a strong dollar, which is normally a sign of weaker gold and continues to confound warnings of a collapse in the greenback. Oil prices are plainly far higher than they were, but they have come off their peaks. Moreover, there have been few signs so far that oil prices are feeding through to a 1970s-style stagflation. Nothing in either bond or stockmarkets suggests that investors see much danger of such a thing happening.

Bear on bullion Gold's renewed shine is best explained by thinking of the metal not as money but as a commodity dug out of the ground. In the past few years the price has climbed because mining companies stopped locking in prices by selling gold in advance—in effect, withdrawing a huge source of supply. Even then, gold has captured only 40% of the gains of other metals in The Economist's metals index, which has almost doubled since the start of 2003 thanks partly to fundamental demand from emerging markets and partly to investors in search of better returns than those from other assets. Gold would have done better had Chinese demand risen as fast as some expected; in fact, figures from GFMS, a consultancy, suggest it has been flat, even falling, over the past 20 years. Chinese investors now have other places to put their money.

Gold is still cheap compared with its peak of $850 in 1980. Today, adjusting for changes in American consumer prices, it is worth only a quarter as much. Gold bugs might see that as a chance to buy; others as a reminder of gold's enduring capacity to disappoint.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bullion; gold; goldbubble; investing; yellowmetalfever
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Yeah, but does anybody want even an honest one--I mean I think Howard Dean is honest. An honest nutjob.


61 posted on 12/01/2005 11:27:12 AM PST by Comstock1 (I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all outta bubble gum!)
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To: BenLurkin
Does anyone know WHY gold should or might be considered a "barbarous relic"?

My guess is it refers to mercantilism and all the violence that went along with that flawed economic system.

62 posted on 12/01/2005 11:31:09 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Ignatz
You'd probably succeed handsomely.
63 posted on 12/01/2005 11:32:07 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"Do these look bigger to you"

--Jennifer Aniston to Jim Carey, "Bruce Almighty"

Sorry, no pix. You were too transparent. (Or not transparent enough?)


64 posted on 12/01/2005 11:34:03 AM PST by dangus
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To: ElkGroveDan
On second thought, I'll compromise. Here's an inflated boob:


66 posted on 12/01/2005 11:35:37 AM PST by dangus
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To: .cnI redruM

The little yellow god. Even at $500, it's still a barbarous relic

Oh, sorry. I thought this story was about Kim Jong Il...

67 posted on 12/01/2005 11:36:52 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
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To: COBOL2Java
When was KIJ ever worth $500? (Even discounting all four years of Carterflation)
68 posted on 12/01/2005 11:37:57 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Meanwhile, gold made an end run around naysayers today and broke past the New York $500 price for daylight. With no defenders in sight it looks like a downfield run for the goal line.


69 posted on 12/01/2005 11:42:20 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: bert
Freepmail me when it hits $2,073.20.
70 posted on 12/01/2005 11:43:12 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Murtha - What happens when patriots turn into Democrats.)
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To: proxy_user

.....Out vast wealth is based on the knowledge of our workers......

Perhaps our vast wealth is irrelevant to most of the world that worries about the impending doom in France and resultant failure of the economic system that creates wealth with no intrinsic value..


71 posted on 12/01/2005 11:45:56 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: Pookyhead

...Land is the most valuable currency. It is definable and finite....

However in places where they cannot buy land, they can buy gold.


72 posted on 12/01/2005 11:48:45 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: MeanWestTexan
The difference being your list has silver and copper in their un-corroded state. Hence, gold-plated copper connectors.

Exactly...copper and silver actually oxidize, while gold does not.

73 posted on 12/01/2005 11:54:18 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Pookyhead

I heard/read that an ounce of gold 100+ years ago would buy the same amount of goods as it would today.

10 dollar gold piece 100+ years ago = $10 and buys x pounds of wheat, coffee, whiskey, corn and gun powder with lead.

A 10 dollar gold piece today = $500+/- (Assuming an ounce)

I never really stopped to do the math but it seems close at first glance.


74 posted on 12/01/2005 11:54:58 AM PST by enraged
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To: .cnI redruM
When was KIJ ever worth $500? (Even discounting all four years of Carterflation)

Pyongyag says he's good at sports, tho...


75 posted on 12/01/2005 11:56:28 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
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To: .cnI redruM

....Freepmail me when it hits $2,073.20......

I'll set the alarm, but I sometimes forget.

Why $2,073.20?


76 posted on 12/01/2005 11:57:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: enraged

Which means you wouldn't have made any money. But had you bought a diversified portfolio of stocks 100 years ago, you'd have made an enormous amount of money.


77 posted on 12/01/2005 12:00:08 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: KarlInOhio
The inability to control the gold supply is the greatest problem with gold as a currency. The quantity of money in the market needs to be controlled to maintain economic growth.

While being able to turn the mints up to full speed and flood the economy with new money sounds like a good way to fund a national debt it is very short sighted. To do so would destroy the credibility of the US dollar as a worldwide currency and would drive the borrowing costs through the roof. The economy would go into a tailspin as foreign capital fled and the interest costs on any new deficits would quickly outrun the cost of our current debt.

In a perfect world they would introduce just enough new dollars to match growth in the economy. But being an imperfect world they err on the side of caution to avoid any deflation and generate a few points of annual inflation.

While inflation is not good, deflation is devastating to economic growth- why buy/invest when you can sit on the cash and afford more later? Because the supply of gold cannot be controlled, the economy can be whipsawed around by shortages and surpluses in the gold supply.
78 posted on 12/01/2005 12:00:29 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: .cnI redruM

If gold keeps going up, I may be able to get my money back on the gold I bought in the 80's!


79 posted on 12/01/2005 12:00:30 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: flashbunny
I've never understood the fascination with the 'gold standard'.

When has any primal fetish ("oonga boonga! shiny!") made sense?

80 posted on 12/01/2005 12:02:11 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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