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I am a conservative - Long (Double secret vanity)
Rice08

Posted on 11/30/2005 7:11:55 AM PST by rice08

I am a conservative, I think there is no more fitting place to post this than here at FR, the only caveat I will say is that this post has nothing to do with my handle (rice08)

 

To quote Charles foster Kane, I have a statement of principles on our country and the world as a whole, here is what I believe in no particular order:

 

 

-          Cut taxes whenever possible for any reasonable cause

-          Limit government spending, privatize when possible… You want Medicare? Here is a voucher for blue cross/blue shield, go nuts

-          Ronald Reagan was a great president and had a great deal to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union

-          Commies aren’t cool

-          The Chicoms are a real and strategic threat to the security of the United States and the world, I avoid “made in china” whenever humanly possible

-          Always lukewarm on “free trade” because you can call something free trade and it can be something else entirely (see “De-Regulation”)

-          I am strong supporter and believe in the *entire* constitution of the United States, not just certain amendments. that includes the 2nd.

-          Judges should not legislate

-          Treason is real and exists today

-          Democrats have lost their way from the days of Truman

-          Education is a silver bullet for many of society’s problems ; that includes generous vouchers for all takers from any background (From home schooling to the church of frank) I don’t care

-          The MSM is liberal and so are our college campi

-          Freedom of religion is not freedom FROM religion and our great history of religious tolerance proves it

-          The UN and the EU have become corrupt and should be marginalized as institutions

-          The ACLU is a serious threat to this country

-          Lynn Stewart deserves to rot

-          The US Armed forces have been the greatest force for human freedom in the history of mankind.

-          Impeachment of Billary was a vindictive and political act but he was and is a dirtbag.

-          John McCain is a hero to this country but for McCain-Finegold alone deserves great scorn (not to mention his other RINO tendencies)

-          Hillary Clinton is a great political threat to this country

-          Saudi Arabia is not our friend

-          Drill everywhere

- Michael Moore isn’t a patriot

-          Invest in every kind of alternative fuel possible (that includes government investment as well)

-          At the very least have a cold hard look at the drug war

-          None of this 3-5 years for murder 2 crap, lock ‘em away

-          I support the death penalty but I won’t man the barricades for it

-          The war on terror is the most important issue of our time

-          Free peoples and free markets work better than any other form of human civilization, government must exist to protect the rights of the individual first and foremost against the sometimes evil nature of individuals

-          I think corporations should be good US citizens not members of some undefined and unequal global community (see free trade)

-          Iron clad and armed borders with a organized flow of honest immigrants from all corners of the earth are welcome. (I say this as a proud immigrant to this country)

-          The current Republican order in Washington is a virtual disgrace when it comes to the issues of spending and immigration

-          Wal-Mart is not evil except for their enabling of the PRC

-          Unions work when they understand and believe in the capitalist system of supply and demand

 

 

You will of course note that some hot button issues are missing. Well guess what, I am by most standards pro-choice, save your arguments. On top of that I couldn’t give two bottles of jack if two or 3 or 5 of anybody or anything got married while being officiated by their pet poodle. I am also a militant atheist who doesn’t give THREE bottles of jack what you believe in and would never dream of telling you what to believe about anything, that said, keep ID out of my face, thanks. I am not going to change in this regard and that isn’t the reason why I posted this.

 

My point is that all of my conservative friends and family believe in virtually this same platform and we all vote republican. The problem is that if a pro choice republican tried to run for national office with this long list of deeply held beliefs they are DOA due to the passionate and sincere beliefs of the conservative “base” . I am not telling anybody to abandon their faith or their beliefs, quite the opposite.

 

I am wondering if those reading this understand that the conservative revolution that has been brewing for 40 years is threatened because of this make or break issue. Not because moderating the party’s pro-life stance will attract a larger pool of voters but because it keeps good conservatives out of power, plain and simple.

 

Discuss

 

BT

 

 

 

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: conservatives; doublesecret; elections; frino; mememememe; prolife; shoveyourvanity; stupidrino
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To: rice08

who wrote this? ted nugent or george carlin?


61 posted on 11/30/2005 9:16:00 AM PST by thefactor
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To: rice08
The question is where do you stand on Judicial Activism? The fiat legislative action of the federal judicial branch on abortion was only one of many steps to have liberal rule by judicial decree.

We are a nation of self-government and a nation of limited Federal Government through our Constitution. The creation of penumbras and the whole hijacking of social/legal questions to the federal bench where leftists legislate by decree is central to despise if you are conservative.

62 posted on 11/30/2005 9:20:22 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: River_Wrangler
"Being captured is an act by others as is being shot down"

This is a good point. Most vets I've talked to aren't real crazy about their Purple Hearts either. Why? Because they feel that the only reason they got shot up is because they made a mistake.

63 posted on 11/30/2005 9:29:09 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: MineralMan

That's a valid question. Our troops can't be everywhere. Unfortunately, it is an economic issue and poppy-growing must be replaced with something else. The fields are being destroyed, but obviously not quickly enough.


64 posted on 11/30/2005 9:31:43 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: thefactor

I wrote it


65 posted on 11/30/2005 9:40:07 AM PST by rice08
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To: KC Burke

I mentioned in an earlier reply that I am very interested in pro-life and gay rights in the context of judicial activism and law in general, I can buy the argument that roe vs. wade is "bad law" and I don't want a MASS supreme court deciding issues for me


66 posted on 11/30/2005 9:41:34 AM PST by rice08
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To: sageb1
Here's a chart, showing poppy production up to 2004. I don't see that it's declining. I think this should be a priority job for the U.S. Karzai disagrees. The result: See the chart. Source: Times of London


67 posted on 11/30/2005 9:41:47 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: meandog
Just as 2nd Amendment allows the ownership of firearms, it does not cover ownership of WMDs
That isn't in my copy of the constitution...do you have a super secret copy that has that exception in it?

just as 1st Amendment allows free speech, it doesn't allow the false alarm yell of 'fire' in a crowded theater
If they start gagging everyone before they into a theater then I will agree that the freedom of speech has been abrogated.

Why do you think people's political speech should be limited to $2500? Is someone going to trampled to death?
68 posted on 11/30/2005 9:46:43 AM PST by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: MineralMan

Thanks for the info. I am wrong every once in awhile. I was positive that I'd read otherwise fairly recently. I'll check around for more info. Do you have a link for that graph? If not, that's ok - I'll find it.


69 posted on 11/30/2005 10:07:40 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: papertyger
Has it never occurred to you the best financed candidate win because they're more popular and draw more support?


Right...Jeanine "who" < /sarc> click here

70 posted on 11/30/2005 10:10:20 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: sageb1

Sure:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-1365641,00.html


71 posted on 11/30/2005 10:20:46 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rice08

i figured. it was just a reference to the ubiquotous "I am a bad American" post that is attributed to those two guys that pops up here once every few months.


72 posted on 11/30/2005 10:29:12 AM PST by thefactor
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To: sageb1

I have libertarian leanings, but my conservatism keeps those in check :)


That's great tagline material, BTW.


73 posted on 11/30/2005 10:51:15 AM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: rice08; Pukin Dog; sandyeggo
"A Republican yes, but you aint no Conservative."
"- If the candidate is pro-abort, he/she will get no vote from me."
You two are perfect examples of rice's point.
Conservatives who won't vote for a republican because he doesn't have the right view on specific issues, are not helping their cause. We are never going to have a perfect Conservative candidate. We'll have to sacrifice some issues to get the best possible candidate, and then we have to support that candidate.
74 posted on 11/30/2005 10:55:51 AM PST by angryirish
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To: angryirish

People who believe that abortion on demand is equal to government-condoned infantacide will NEVER bend on this issue. For us, it is too heinous to simply sweep under the rug until next election. It is not an issue to be compromised.


75 posted on 11/30/2005 10:59:56 AM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: two134711

Actions have consequences, I don't wish anybody to give up, I just want to know if you are willing to live with president hillary clinton as a direct consequence


76 posted on 11/30/2005 11:07:08 AM PST by rice08
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To: rice08

I live with her as my Senator already! If the Republican candidate will be Rudy Guiliani, I do not see a huge difference in either of them. Guiliani is an anti-gun, pro-choice, pro-gay RINO. I haven't forgotten 9/11, but he cannot run on those six weeks alone.

I'll go Constitution Party if those are my choices, and I can live with my decision.


77 posted on 11/30/2005 11:16:00 AM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: two134711

Not suggesting giving up on an issue.
Suggesting that voting based on one issue can be dangerous.


78 posted on 11/30/2005 11:24:19 AM PST by angryirish
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To: angryirish

It very well could. But when faced with two candidates who run on almost identical platforms, the only difference being the letter after their names, (this happens often enough in NY), I must go for the third guy with integrity than the lesser of two evils. I'm not beholden to a party if they abandon the beliefs that made me vote for them in the first place.


79 posted on 11/30/2005 11:33:43 AM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: Durus
2nd Amendment and WMDs... That isn't in my copy of the constitution...do you have a super secret copy that has that exception in it?

So, you're into collecting A-bombs...good luck on getting BATF's okay

...a false alarm yell of 'fire' in a crowded theater... If they start gagging everyone before they into a theater then I will agree that the freedom of speech has been abrogated.

Hmm-m-m-m...I wonder what your criminal defense would be if you got someone trampled after you instigated a false alarm?

Why do you think people's political speech should be limited to $2500? Is someone going to trampled to death?

Money is not now, nor has it ever been free speech.

80 posted on 11/30/2005 11:35:01 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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