1 posted on
11/29/2005 8:03:38 PM PST by
presidio9
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To: presidio9
Reflecting the divisions foreseen by some churchmen and scholars, a Catholic priest in Arizona announced his resignation because of "aggressive anti-gay positions" at the Vatican and the U.S. Church.
Praise God! Another pervert is out of the church.
2 posted on
11/29/2005 8:06:28 PM PST by
farmer18th
("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
To: presidio9
"I could no longer stay in that institution with any amount of integrity," Rev. Leonard Walker, 58, told the Arizona Republic after resigning from the Queen of Peace Church. Ok, stop snickering.
Seriously, any "institution with any amount of integrity" would not want pro-homo pastors. Buh-bye. And don't let the door hit you as you swish and sway out.
5 posted on
11/29/2005 8:08:18 PM PST by
GLDNGUN
To: presidio9
"Vatican edict on gays divides U.S. Catholics"
Goats to the left; sheep to the right.
To: presidio9
a Catholic priest in Arizona announced his resignation because of "aggressive anti-gay positions" WooHoo!
Weed the garden and watch it bloom.
7 posted on
11/29/2005 8:08:58 PM PST by
Clint N. Suhks
(If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
To: presidio9
"It's like a Jew wearing a Nazi uniform," A queer wearing the vestments of a Priest is like a Jew wearing a Nazi uniform? Puleeease.
It seems to me he spending WAY too much time thinking about his genitals and what he'd like to do with them.... and far too little time thinking about his mission as a PRIEST.
8 posted on
11/29/2005 8:09:17 PM PST by
jess35
To: presidio9
Skylstad, who sets the tone for Vatican edicts in the United States, sought to calm angry Catholics by stressing that the first major ruling of Pope Benedict's reign would not exclude gay men who dedicated themselves to the priesthood. Since the Catholic priesthood is filled with homosexual men who are chaste and who are serving God's people well, it stands to reason that the Church will continue to allow homosexuals into seminaries.
The document succeeds in warning bishops to eliminate the blatant, the flamboyant, the gay advocates. But there will still be homosexual men in the priesthood.
11 posted on
11/29/2005 8:11:00 PM PST by
sinkspur
(Trust, but vilify.)
To: presidio9
The Vatican statement said homosexuals should be barred from entering the priesthood along with men with "deep-seated" homosexual tendencies and those who support gay culture. So far so good...
Brian Saint-Paul, senior editor of the Catholic journal CRISIS, described the document as "liberal" for allowing gays to continue to enter seminaries at all compared to a 1961 edict that barred all homosexuals outright but was poorly enforced.
???
I don't think it allows gays to enter the seminaries at all. Where does Brian see that????
To: presidio9
Some Catholic scholars said the real issue was the Church's fixation on celibacy Why do people always fixate on this issue? Are they implying that married people can't be pedophiles? Or maybe men are animals who can't control themselves? After all, nuns are celibate and nobody worries about them! Where's the hue and cry for married monks? How about the pope?
In any case the Church is not "fixated" on celibacy, but there is a long basis for it in tradition, and it does leave the priest free to focus on God's work.
To: presidio9
Comments by Jesuit priests from "Catholic Colleges" should be taken with the understanding that the Jesuits in many ways have strayed. The Catholic Church has to deal with some of the "Catholic Universities" and some "Catholic States" like Massachusetts and California who have staunchly anti-Catholic "Catholic" politicians.
There is no more single person who has harmed the Catholic Church than Ted Kennedy, unless it would be John Kerry. Both are divorced, both support abortion..............
27 posted on
11/29/2005 8:27:22 PM PST by
paguch
To: presidio9
Some Catholic scholars said the real issue was the Church's fixation on celibacy. Daniel Maguire, a professor of moral theology at Marquette, a Jesuit university in Wisconsin, described celibacy as a "failed experiment in human control."
"It's highly unrealistic," he said. You can always count on the MSM to drag up one of the most liberal Catholic priest to comment on this matter.
The Jebbies have been complaining about celibacy for YEARS. I don't know why, though. There is a real problem with homosexuality and AIDS in the order, so they're obviously ignoring it anyway.
31 posted on
11/29/2005 8:29:07 PM PST by
SuziQ
To: presidio9
none that I know...
34 posted on
11/29/2005 8:31:58 PM PST by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: presidio9
The only way this would divide Christians is between those who believe in the Bible, and love Christ, and those who don't.
Homosexuality has destroyed the Priesthood. There is no room for "being gay but not practicing." Homosexuality is akin to alcoholism. You must come to terms with it, acknowledge it as sin, and overcome it.
Homosexuality is a terrible sin, and it spreads, unless confronted, as all evil does.
41 posted on
11/29/2005 8:34:58 PM PST by
SkyPilot
To: presidio9
The Vatican's tougher stand on homosexuality has divided American Catholics, with some welcoming it as a renewal of a Church plagued by scandal and others warning it would further alienate Catholic leaders. Uhhh, would those alienated Catholic leaders would be the ones participating in homosexual, child molestation?
48 posted on
11/29/2005 8:38:38 PM PST by
blake6900
(YOUR AD HERE)
To: presidio9
don't let the door hit ya in a$$ on the way out!
Don't go away mad, just go away and STFU...
75 posted on
11/29/2005 9:23:45 PM PST by
castlebrew
(true gun control is hitting where you're aiming!)
To: presidio9
" . . . declined to disclose his sexual orientation."Correct response? "I'm celibate."
To: presidio9
In Arizona, Walker said he no longer felt comfortable "wearing the uniform" of priesthood. "It's like a Jew wearing a Nazi uniform," he said, declined to disclose his sexual orientation. Some questions just don't need to be asked.
To: presidio9
The Vatican's tougher stand on homosexuality has divided American CatholicsReflecting the divisions foreseen by some churchmen and scholars, a Catholic priest in Arizona announced his resignation because of "aggressive anti-gay positions" at the Vatican and the U.S. Church.
"Do you think that I have come to establish peace on the earth?
No, I tell you,
but rather division."
-- Luke 12:51
84 posted on
11/29/2005 9:58:58 PM PST by
DBeers
(†)
To: presidio9
I really don't understand why is their any controversy here?
The scripture clearly denounces homosexuality and the active defiance of God's will.
Concise homosexuality is a clear defiance of God's will.
91 posted on
11/29/2005 10:12:11 PM PST by
Tempest
(I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
To: presidio9
Reflecting the divisions foreseen by some churchmen and scholars, a Catholic priest in Arizona announced his resignation because of "aggressive anti-gay positions" at the Vatican and the U.S. Church. "I could no longer stay in that institution with any amount of integrity," Rev. Leonard Walker, 58, told the Arizona Republic after resigning from the Queen of Peace Church. Please, let the door slam you in the back on the way out.
I knew I'd like this Pope.
Far as I'm concerned any church, Catholic...Evangelical...Protestant....or even Orthodox Jews... if you clean up your area you have 100% of my support during the process. If they want a new religion, let them go make it up. They have NO right to corrupt the Jewish and Christian Faiths with their world doctrine. Kick 'em out if that is their goal.
94 posted on
11/29/2005 10:27:03 PM PST by
Soul Seeker
(Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
To: presidio9
Ummm... The homo-fascinated American hierarchy (in many places, but not all) is dividing the American church. Rome, and the Vicar therein, is merely repeating existing (and long-standing) church doctrine.
The author is a moron with a mission.
107 posted on
11/30/2005 5:11:25 AM PST by
MortMan
(Eschew Obfuscation)
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