[Myrddin]

But it couldn't have been heaven until Jesus offered His body as a sacrifice - unless there are Christian willing to believe that a person can get to heaven without the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ...

The trip to heaven, hell or in-between starts on judgement day. Judgement day could not occur prior to the resurrection of Christ. It still hasn't happened. Everyone is still waiting for that day..including Moses and Abraham.

[mike182d]

Everyone is still waiting for that day..including Moses and Abraham.

When Jesus said to the theif on the cross that "on this day you will be with me in paradise," He meant "this day" as in several thousand years later when He returns for judgement?