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Surprise! Computer Scientists Model the Exclamation Point
Red Orbit ^
| 28 NOVEMBER 2005
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Posted on 11/29/2005 6:27:49 AM PST by rdb3
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Surprise, they say, outperformed entropy and saliency, "exhibiting a stronger human bias toward surprising locations than towards entropic or salient regions." The pair say they have confirmed these results with a larger study. No comment.

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11/29/2005 6:27:51 AM PST
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rdb3
To: rdb3
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:29:25 AM PST
by
SlowBoat407
(The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
To: rdb3
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:31:41 AM PST
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: rdb3
Exactly as I'd predicted.
To: rdb3
These guys apparently haven't done a literature review. "Surprise" has been modeled using catastrophe theory for over 25 years. Paulos uses it effectively in his book "Mathematics and Humor".
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:34:26 AM PST
by
Buck W.
(Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
To: rdb3
Itti and Baldi would make a great name for a cartoon.
just an observation.
nevermind.
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:34:49 AM PST
by
glock rocks
("God's gift to you is life itself. What you do with it is your gift to God." - Leo Buscaglia)
To: rdb3
But the same noisy environmental buzz of activity that communicators must package their messages to survive in itself contains information crucial to individuals -- information that is not in message form. These include potential threats or opportunities. Individuals clearly develop mechanisms by which they devote attention to certain stimuli, while ignoring others, in the flood of information that they receive from their senses.As Itti and Baldi write, "efficient and rapid attentional allocation is key to predation, escape, and mating -- in short, to survival."
I soooo used to respect science. It's become nothing but unlearned pricks who finally get up to speed on common sense, record data until they like what they see, and then put it into words and publish it.
Then they go have a party to congradulate themselves and maybe lobby some politicians for money and laws based on their absurd conclusions, and sneer down at us like we didn't already know what they finally figured out after 20 years.
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:37:03 AM PST
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SteveMcKing
("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
To: rdb3
I tried to follow this, but my brain started to hurt...
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:37:30 AM PST
by
laker_dad
To: rdb3
Well, that explains MTV and VH1.........
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:37:31 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(There are no female angels..............)
To: laker_dad
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:38:25 AM PST
by
Obadiah
( Deuteronomy 6:5)
To: SlowBoat407
I was expecting this. No surprise, huh? :-)
Seems to me they have written an algorithm about known phenomena. I see no new information here, but hey, I am a mind-numbed robot.
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11/29/2005 6:39:03 AM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: laker_dad
I tried to follow this, but my brain started to hurt... Believe me, I know what you mean. I just thought this was just too rich to pass up.

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posted on
11/29/2005 6:40:20 AM PST
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rdb3
(Wheelchair? What wheelchair?)
To: rdb3

SURPRISE!
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:48:03 AM PST
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SlowBoat407
(The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
To: rdb3
Itti and Baldi say that in present research, the definition of both saliency and novelty are empirical, based on analysis of visual streams, rather than predictions about them based on basic principles, But in a few months we'll have another study that says that it really is ok to eat cheetos and peanut butter.
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:48:47 AM PST
by
Eagle Eye
(There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
To: rdb3
WOW!!!!!!! Whoda thunk it??????????
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:49:12 AM PST
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mc5cents
To: rdb3
This reads like it was generated by
Scigen, a program that generates BS papers in computer science.
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posted on
11/29/2005 6:53:17 AM PST
by
2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
(Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
To: rdb3
Surprise, they say, outperformed entropy and saliency, "exhibiting a stronger human bias toward surprising locations than towards entropic or salient regions." The pair say they have confirmed these results with a larger study.Imagine my surprise when Gisele dropped her robe and got in the shower with me. My salient region became obvious. Chaos ensued...
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11/29/2005 6:56:55 AM PST
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mikegi
To: rdb3
...will present their results [regarding the mechanics of surprise] December 7, How appropriate.
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posted on
11/29/2005 7:01:44 AM PST
by
LexBaird
(tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
This reads like it was generated by Scigen, a program that generates BS papers in computer science.My first thought.
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posted on
11/29/2005 7:03:32 AM PST
by
randog
(What the....?!)
To: SteveMcKing
Surprise, they say, outperformed entropy and saliency
Prediction: relevancy outperforms surprise.
SteveMcKing. I soooo used to respect science.
Leftists seem to use ScienceTM as a surrogate religion to take the place of orthodox religion.
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posted on
11/29/2005 7:03:59 AM PST
by
Milhous
(Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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