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Hunters now the hunted.
Sierra Times ^ | 11/29/2005 | Michael E. Cook

Posted on 11/29/2005 5:01:38 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

Hunters are the latest targets of the animal rights extremists and may become victims of homicide. It seems terrorist organizations like the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and Win Animal Rights (WAR) have become so radical that now they believe it is alright to kill humans to protect animals. Right now they are headed to New Jersey to stop a bear hunt by any means they can.

I just read a report by Cam Edwards on the 21st where ALF went to the home of Lloyd Harbor, New York mayor Leland Hairr and painted anti-hunting slogans on his home and his car in the garage because he had asked the state for a special season to help with a problem of too many deer in the area of his city.

Well the state of New York had already backed down, but not because of this act, they had already stopped because of pressure from the Catholic seminary in that city. So this criminal act never needed to happen in the first place. The police need to bring those responsible for this to justice as quick as possible.

There is a common thread between ALF and WAR, however they deny any connection. The North American Animal Liberation Press Office (NAALPO) has as one of their national press officers Camille Hankins who is the founder of WAR. They also have a Dr. Jerry Vlasak a trauma surgeon in Los Angeles, California as a press officer and he is a member of ALF. In an interview on “60 Minutes” Vlasak has said, “I think for five lives, ten lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, two million, ten million nonhuman lives.” He told CBS, “I think people who torture innocent beings should be stopped. And if they won’t stop when you ask them nicely, they won’t stop when you demonstrate to them what they’re doing is wrong, then they should be stopped using whatever means necessary.” What does this mean to you?

They have become terrorists and their target is hunters and others. I think they mean to do whatever it takes including breaking the law and using homicide to stop hunting of animals. Every hunter who goes into the field should be ready and willing to do what it takes to protect themselves. This means you may need to leave someone in camp now to protect it. You will not only have to watch for game now you will have to distrust and watch anyone else in the wood with you. Can you see how this is going to affect our national pastime and heritage? What is this world coming too? We may soon know if they are willing to take a human life to protect a bear.

To date no one in government is speaking out against these organizations. Are they afraid of them or what? Right now these groups have destroyed over 100 million dollars worth of property and they are becoming more violent. They have declared war on us so when will our government and law enforcement do something about it? It’s time to start fighting back. Perhaps the ALF and WAR people will wake up to find someone painted their homes and vehicles. Do we need a group to fight them on their own terms? Will the government do anything to that group? I think they would.

What this means is that you and I will have to be very careful in the future and around our own homes. Will I become a target because I write about this? Well I can tell you I am already on their list for not only writing about them but because I have fought against them politically on many occasions. I will tell them the same thing I told criminals who made threats against me and my family, “Come on down and make your first shot count, because the second one is mine and I don’t miss.”

This is not the America we asked for and it sure isn’t what many of us fought the wars for, but it is reality in this day and age. It’s time to get active and stop this kind of activity before it goes to a shooting war. Call our political leaders and let them know how you feel. In short get involved before it is to late, the time to act is now.

God Bless America and God bless our troops still in harms way.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alf; animalrights; bang; banglist; humanwrongs; killmall; leftistnuts; murder
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To: jboot
"Most of the weekend crowd is made up of citified lolligaggers in crisp new L.L. Bean gear who have never seen a wild animal bigger than a squirrel."

Perfect!

181 posted on 11/29/2005 8:39:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Joe Brower
Some of the Florida tuskers I've seen, especially in the Ocala area can run over 400 pounds! They are classified as dangerous game by the Fish & Wildlife Dept folks. I haven't hunted hog in awhile, but I would never use less than a .30-30 or more likely a .30-06 Garand with the 5 rd. hunting clip inserted.

'Bout six or so years ago a buddy of mine went on a canned hunt up in north Florida and he took his sixteen year old daughter. SHE capped a 400 pound pig in waist deep swamp using a S&W M629 44 Maggie! Clean kill at about 15 meters. That hog fed 30 folks at her "sweet Sixteen" party a few days later. This little girl was a "preemie" baby and has the telltale spindly arms and legs. But she sure can shoot. Helps that her dad is one of my instructor friends. I enjoyed that pork, too.

182 posted on 11/29/2005 8:44:35 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
You don't need a bunch of fancy stuff. A few big dogs who know the area and who and what belongs there. Get outside without turning on a light and without using a flashlight. Lights will screw up your night vision for up to 40 minutes. Move slow and easy, use the available cover and concealment, maintain yourself and your firearm in stage one, then listen to and believe your dogs. I always keep one of my big dogs in the house and I take him out the door with me. If my other dogs are busy, this one will pick up anything that has gotten by them.
All of my neighbors are combat vets. I'm a retired AB Ranger and I spent more than a decade handling and training military working dogs, sentry dogs, patrol dogs, bomb dogs, dope dogs, and tracking dogs. Our security is pretty tight. I guess you could say we are a NO PETA ZONE!!!!!
183 posted on 11/29/2005 8:46:59 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Joe Brower
I used to do a lot of hog hunting when I lived in south florida. We would go with my uncle on his swamp buggy about 15 miles off the tamiami trail.

Nothing like standing in chest high sawgrass and hearing the sounds of a large boar moving close to you and not being able to see him.

Our load-out was 12ga, with 00 and slug mix. We carried 1911s, but that was to shoot ourselves if the 12ga ran dry before the boar went down. LOL

184 posted on 11/29/2005 8:52:45 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: Joe Brower

Lovely AR! I sold both of mine and bought a Springfield Armory M1A match. I love it! Also sold several of my Glocks and bought a Para-Ordnance P-14 .45. Ain't America great!


185 posted on 11/29/2005 8:58:31 AM PST by dljordan
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To: ExSoldier
I love a good story. $:-)
186 posted on 11/29/2005 9:03:51 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: painter

Leave the shovel, they will interpret it as planning a murder. Let the bears eat the ELF and WAR morons. Practice this line until you can deliver it like a pro: "Officer, he/she pointed something at me and after I read about them threatening to kill hunters, I thought it was a gun and I was afraid for my life. I would like to speak to my attorney now." Do not repeat, deviate, or elaborate no matter how many times they ask you.



56 posted on 11/29/2005 6:05:04 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants


187 posted on 11/29/2005 9:07:40 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Joe Brower; Dead Corpse
Joe is lucky he din't run into this guy when all he had was his poodle shooter. ;^)


188 posted on 11/29/2005 9:10:53 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Squantos; Eaker

I was just telling my girls Sunday that these animal rights loonies who place nature above man were in the long run possibly as dangerous as anyone

they are on a crusade beholden to no one

my arty oldest daughter sort of took umbrage and I advised she rent 12 Monkeys just for starters at a hint at what these fried brain goofballs are capable of


189 posted on 11/29/2005 9:11:01 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: B4Ranch
Leave the shovel, they will interpret it as planning a murder.

But...how am I s'posed to go to the bathroom? I always take an E-Tool in case I gotta go...gotta go....gotta go right now...

190 posted on 11/29/2005 9:12:02 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

where was that boar taken?

looks like one from the Bass Pro Shops exhibits...Mongolia or Siberia?


191 posted on 11/29/2005 9:12:57 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

Google Hogzilla.


192 posted on 11/29/2005 9:13:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: Dead Corpse

thanks...River Oak Plantation in south Georgia is a reputable place ...I've heard of it


193 posted on 11/29/2005 9:21:44 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

Georgia, US. Google "hogzilla".


194 posted on 11/29/2005 9:22:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: ExSoldier

Where do you hunt? I have never located a bathroom out in the woods. Now if you have to take a crap, scrape the ground clear with your foot, undo your belt, lower your ..... You should know the rest.


195 posted on 11/29/2005 9:30:03 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch
I have never located a bathroom out in the woods.

My point, exactly. I was always taught to dig a small cathole using your trusty Entrenching Tool (E-Tool) and follow the instructions you just gave. You really do want to effectively bury the product unless you want to scare off the game you wish to kill. In our case, it was sort of a tactical necessity to avoid drawing enemy patrols into the AO (Area of Operations). It's good hygene too. So I have an E-Tool for this reason. Should I need to BURY something else....well possession by a hunter of an e-tool doesn't quite make the prior case for premeditation.....

196 posted on 11/29/2005 9:39:09 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Joe Brower
The Second Amendment...
America's Only Homeland Security!

Be Ever Vigilant!

197 posted on 11/29/2005 9:42:45 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: ExSoldier

Hunt with a .50BMG amd there won't be any evidence to pick up. One side benefit is they will dig a very nice trench with just one squeeze to substitute as a cathole.


198 posted on 11/29/2005 9:53:06 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That's not a boar, it's a frickin' mammoth!

If I saw a hog that big, I don't care what I was carrying, I think I'd work on just sneaking away quietly...

199 posted on 11/29/2005 9:57:18 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: socketsquirrel

Down south they eat bear.


200 posted on 11/29/2005 10:01:32 AM PST by sully777 (The Religion Of Peace apparently kills!)
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