Browser Face-Off

PCWorld ^ | 28 November 2005 | Erik Larkin

[SteveMcKing]

Safari is the only major browser to pass the Acid 2 Test.

All other browsers are non-compliant, as far as I'm concerned.

[gcruse]

Netscape, aye, and I hooked on the Composer editor, too!

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

...Mozilla launches faster than netscape, opera, firefox.

I recently switched to an alternate desktop shell called Emerge. It rocks.

It replaces "explorer.exe" in Win XP and Win2k. (I use it on both). The thing is...Firefox launches faster with the Emerge desktop shell than it ever did while I was running Microsoft's Explorer shell.

If you like a clean, sleek and swift desktop shell that is infinitely configurable...give Emerge a shot.

[CodeToad]

IE Developer Toolbar

A great download that adds tons to the usefulness of IE in a development environment.

[knews_hound]

Blog Fodder BTTT

Cheers,

knews hound

http://knewshound.blogspot.com/

[Dubya-M-Dees]

HO!-HO!-HO! THE GREAT BIG O!
OVERSTOCK. DOT COM!.........


Oh man.. don't get me started on that trainwreck of a company. I know this is off topic, but my recommendation to anyone is to NEVER buy anything from them. I've dealt with hundreds of online transactions. Everything from eBay to newegg.com. Overstock has to be THE WORST. Do some searches of ratings for online resellers.

The big O should stand for - O Sh*t.. I just threw my money away!!

[Hank Rearden]

Overstock has to be THE WORST.

Not for me; I've bought 2 or 3 things from them. I'll admit I'm not exactly a frequent customer of theirs, but the process worked fine.

And their babe from TV delivered them to my door in her white gown. Can't argue with that.

[Uncle Jaque]

For years - ever since about v. 4.2 - I liked Netscape, with it's combined browser and "Communicator" mail client.

But then along came v.8, with no mail attached.
What's up with that?!
So I kept the "archival" v.7.2, which worked pretty well on the W98 system.

We recently bought a new Compaq running WinXP, and lo and behold, NS mail started doing odd things - like EATING all of my incoming mail text, leaving a blank field. It even deleted them from my web account, for goodness' sake!

After a while, NS would not even open. When I hit the icon, the screen went blank for about a second and came on again, but no NS!

It was finally determined via HP TS that alas, NS 7.2 is just not compatable with MX, and it was time to move on.
So I downloaded Thunderbird and Firefox, which are close relatives of NS in the Mozilla family, and reasonably familiar to me.

One glitch though; apparently NS has a "proprietary arrangement" whereby a NS mail account (which I've had for years) can be accessed ONLY via a NS mail client.
So if we have TB, Opera, Eudora, or any other mail program then we have to check our NS mail on line.
That kinda sux, if you ask me!

One browser I tried a while back was "Crazy Browser" - freeware, and I sort of liked it.
One of the leading "Tabbed" browsers at the time it came out.
Don't know if it's still around, but it might be worth a try.

One TS geek told me that Eudora mail was virtually "virus proof" - I don't know if it still is, but something recently seems to have gotten to my backup box running W98 and NS 7.2.

We've been getting a barrage of infected E-mail lately; mostly that "Sober@amm" and such packed in *.zip or *.TXT ATT - the ISP catches some, my AV catches a few others, but all of a sudden my AV (Grisoft) went bye-bye (and could not be re-installed), I could not back anything up or connect on the internet, and things went south from there.
Before long my HD would not even boot up.

I always take that sort of behaviour as a bad sign...

Putting spare HDs in only resulted in them going fritz too.
I didn't think that a worm / virus could infect the BIOS and attack any HD installed, but I guess I missed something along the way somewhere.

This new Compaq is acting squirrely and the CD R/RW DVD drive crapped out shortly upon arrival (we've got a warranty drive on the way), but at least it still works...
Sort of.
I'm not real impressed, however.

[Petruchio]

I just upgraded from Netscape 7.2 to Netscape 8 with Thunderbird 1.5 for mail.

Works GREAT!

me very happy

:-D

[lapsus calami]

 

 

Have heard some stories that they have shipped items in the packaging that they came in and not in reinforced cardboard boxes made for transport, with broken merchandise as the end result.

 

 

[chronic_loser]

funny, but I find myself using opera more and more, even though linux had firefox as a "default" on the distros i use (Mepis and Fedora Red Hat). Opera is very nice and it really screams for speed.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

That's sounding a lot like a power supply issue you have there. If there are cheapy electrolytic capacitors in that power supply they may have gone off spec, causing the supply to put out some haywire voltage. Really deadly to the hardware. If you know somebody in the neighborhood who is keen on issues like that, you might want to have him look it over so you'd have some ammo to push for warranty service with.

 

Also, make sure the house outlet you have the machine plugged into is getting good connection and is putting out around 110v. 

 

 

 

[xcamel]

very funny..

[Xenalyte]

Browser snob ping!

[xcamel]

And "they" can make all the claims "they" want, but Opera launches 3 times faster than firefox, mozilla, konquorer etc. 64 bit threading has allot to do with it. (Is running Opera on a dual opteron/250/MP Fedora 4 SMP system with KDE 3.4.3 desktop "Cheating" ???)

[N3WBI3]

Well Firefox is based off of Mozilla which is based off of Netscape...

[N3WBI3]

http://www.emergedesktop.org/

for all those who want to give it a shot...

Sam,

Is this off of the OSS project of the week thread? or had you tried it previously? If you tried it previously pm me..

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I picked it up after reading the thread you started on it ("not for the faint-of-heart", etc...)

I've got the thing well tweaked at home and just finished converting my Win2k desktop here at work. I find it a bit unstable on Win2k and there are also a few diffences. XP is definitely the preferred environment for this shell.