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2nd KU class denies status of science to design theory
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | Sunday, November 27, 2005 | Sophia Maines

Posted on 11/28/2005 6:54:46 AM PST by Right Wing Professor

Intelligent design — already the planned subject of a controversial Kansas University seminar this spring — will make its way into a second KU classroom in the fall, this time labeled as a “pseudoscience.”

In addition to intelligent design, the class Archaeological Myths and Realities will cover such topics as UFOs, crop circles, extrasensory perception and the ancient pyramids.

John Hoopes, associate professor of anthropology, said the course focused on critical thinking and taught how to differentiate science and “pseudoscience.” Intelligent design belongs in the second category, he said, because it cannot be tested and proven false.

“I think this is very important for students to be articulate about — they need to be able to define and recognize pseudoscience,” Hoopes said.

News of the new class provided fresh fuel to conservatives already angered that KU planned to offer a religious studies class this spring on intelligent design as “mythology.”

“The two areas that KU is trying to box this issue into are completely inappropriate,” said Brian Sandefur, a mechanical engineer in Lawrence who has been a vocal proponent of intelligent design.

Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex to have evolved without a “designer,” presumably a god or other supernatural being. That concept is at the heart of Kansas’ new public school science standards — greatly ridiculed by the mainstream science community but lauded by religious conservatives — that critique the theory of evolution.

Hoopes said his class would be a version of another course, titled Fantastic Archaeology, which he helped develop as a graduate student at Harvard University.

The course will look at the myths people have created to explain mysterious occurrences, such as crop circles, which some speculate were caused by extraterrestrials.

The course will explore how myth can be created to negative effects, as in the case of the “myth of the moundbuilders.” In early American history, some people believed the earthen mounds found primarily in the area of the Ohio and Mississippi river valleys were the works of an ancient civilization destroyed by American Indians. The myth contributed to the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which relocated American Indians east of the Mississippi to lands in the west, Hoopes said.

“It was that popular explanation that then became a cause for genocide,” Hoopes said.

That example shows the need to identify pseudoscience, he said.

“What I’m trying to do is deal with pseudoscience regardless of where it’s coming from,” he said.

But Sandefur said intelligent design was rooted in chemistry and molecular biology, not religion, and it should be discussed in science courses.

“The way KU is addressing it I think is completely inadequate,” he said.

Hoopes said he hoped his class stirs controversy. He said students liked to discuss topics that are current and relevant to their lives.

“Controversy makes people think,” he said. “The more controversy, the stronger the course is.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: crevolist; evofreaks; evolution; highereducation; idiocy; ignoranceisstrength; ku; pseudoscience; science; scienceeducation
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To: Mamzelle

"How come you're so new and you know my habits? "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=32680


201 posted on 11/28/2005 11:34:32 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: bobdsmith

You're in a lot greater danger if you don't believe in gravity than if you don't believe in evolution.


202 posted on 11/28/2005 11:35:34 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Mamzelle

You could just google "mamzelle astronauts", you know. Your footprints aren't exactly hidden, nor is the fact that this anti-evo kick is merely your latest hobby.


203 posted on 11/28/2005 11:36:04 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Alter Kaker

In humor, there is truth.


204 posted on 11/28/2005 11:36:13 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

It's what I do. Thanks for the fun.


205 posted on 11/28/2005 11:36:40 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Mamzelle

together for a sneer-fest.

Oh drat! I thought it was a BEER-fest.


206 posted on 11/28/2005 11:37:46 AM PST by moog
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To: js1138
Apparently the suggestion to go back through posting histories was meant to apply to other posters. How foolish of me.
207 posted on 11/28/2005 11:37:54 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: jjmcgo

True and yet we don't really know what gravity is


208 posted on 11/28/2005 11:39:14 AM PST by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith

True and yet we don't really know what gravity is

Gravity is when the stuff on top on my mashed potatoes doesn't stay up at the top.


209 posted on 11/28/2005 11:41:30 AM PST by moog
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To: Right Wing Professor
The creationists challenged science. Huge mistake. Now science is joining the battle.

Creationists should pray that science doesn't go all the way and challenge the existence of God altogether. Granted, science can't dis-prove the existence of God, but it can put such faith into the same category of Islam, paganism, etc. Things that have no affirmative evidence at all.

210 posted on 11/28/2005 11:42:40 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
My, and if you're indeed a newbie, wonder who told you? Maybe that fellow who emailed me with such solicitous courtesy, asking me for personal identification? I knew better than to trust him. But at least he's more than a month old, Bedfellow.

I've taunted my share of astro-fanboys--maybe because I know them very well, and would like them to get a better life. But if you want to start a new thread on the subject, you're welcome to. There's a new Armstrong bio coming out--have at it.

211 posted on 11/28/2005 11:44:16 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: narby

Granted, science can't dis-prove the existence of God

Nothing can disprove or prove the existence of God but the faith of the individual in him.


212 posted on 11/28/2005 11:44:34 AM PST by moog
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To: moog
Sorry bud, that's why I differentiated between humans and animals because we use the term race differently than subspecies when we apply it to humans. With animals, we often don't.

But do you understand that human races are not subspecies? There just isn't anywhere near enough variation there.

213 posted on 11/28/2005 11:45:20 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Now there are two ways to learn about Intelligent Design at KU: ID as mythology, and now ID as pseudoscience! But I betcha some IDers will still not be satisfied!

There's just no pleasing some people.

214 posted on 11/28/2005 11:47:47 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Alter Kaker
It's funny that you are using the same kind of statement to argue that I've repeated twice. I'm not arguing here. I'm not looking for one here.
215 posted on 11/28/2005 11:47:58 AM PST by moog
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To: moog
faith of the individual

My definition of "faith" is something that one believes in for no rational reason other than the fact that they want to. If there were a rational reason, then we'd study God in science class, and the scientist that discovered how to detect and measure Him would be as famous as Newton or Einstein.

In other words, faith is wishful thinking.

216 posted on 11/28/2005 11:48:47 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: Mamzelle
"You're just here to find someone you can call stupid. I guess, so your little club can feel really smart?"

And you're on this thread to contribute . . . what?

217 posted on 11/28/2005 11:49:26 AM PST by atlaw
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To: Thatcherite
Here's one for the observation crew--hint that these evos are not only joined at the hip, but may be all the same person or just a few people--and they come massing to the thread! Old friend, old faces (new names)....

Almost like an alert goes out.

Would appear to be an effective hint to hint--

218 posted on 11/28/2005 11:49:58 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Perhaps I misunderstand the article, then. In reading it I understood that the idea was to keep religious motivations out of the science curricula and put them into courses concerned with mythology, etc.


219 posted on 11/28/2005 11:50:04 AM PST by RonF
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To: Mamzelle
My, and if you're indeed a newbie, wonder who told you?

Why, you did.

Maybe that fellow who emailed me with such solicitous courtesy, asking me for personal identification? I knew better than to trust him.

I'm sure I don't know what on earth you're talking about. OCD with a touch of paranoia, perhaps?

There's a new Armstrong bio coming out--have at it.

Need a new catbox to poop in, do you?

220 posted on 11/28/2005 11:50:42 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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