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Christians can't afford to oppose evolution [says evangelical-biologist]
Chicago Tribune ^ | 27 November 2005 | Richard Colling

Posted on 11/28/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by PatrickHenry

The fuel driving this science education debate is easy to understand. Scientists are suspicious that Christians are trying to insert religious beliefs into science.

They recognize that science must be free, not subject to religious veto. On the other hand, many Christians fear that science is bent on removing God from the picture altogether, beginning in the science classroom--a direction unacceptable to them.

They recognize that when scientists make definitive pronouncements regarding ultimate causes, the legitimate boundaries of science have been exceeded. For these Christians, intelligent design seems to provide protection against a perceived assault from science.

But does it really lend protection? Or does it supply yet another reason to question Christian credibility?

The science education debate need not be so contentious. If the intelligent design movement was truly about keeping the legitimate plausibility of a creator in the scientific picture, the case would seem quite strong.

Unfortunately, despite claims to the contrary, the Dover version of intelligent design has a different objective: opposition to evolution. And that opposition is becoming an increasing liability for Christians.

The reason for this liability is simple: While a growing array of fossils shows evolution occurring over several billion years, information arising from a variety of other scientific fields is confirming and extending the evolutionary record in thoroughly compelling ways.

The conclusions are crystal clear: Earth is very old. All life is connected. Evolution is a physical and biological reality.

In spite of this information, many Christians remain skeptical, seemingly mired in a naive religious bog that sees evolution as merely a personal opinion, massive scientific ruse or atheistic philosophy.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; evofreaks; goddooditamen; heretic; idiocy; ignoranceisstrength; mythology; scienceeducation; yecignoranceonparade
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To: WKUHilltopper
Skin cancer doesn't significantly reduce average life expectancy.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to add (I'm on a conference call and distracted! hahah). The Bible is clear that Man now caps out at 120 years. So I don't think splashing that stuff will do anything for adding to one's life. But I'm not saying that the UV thing isn't a rational theory prior to the destruction of Man. I would say the physics of the earth would have changed given it didn't even rain prior to. So maybe there is something to the UV thing. I don't know and it's speculation at best.

As opposed to the rest of what you just posted?

261 posted on 11/28/2005 12:29:43 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dimensio
I guess that's one way for creationists to deal with the evidence and observations: ignore them and pretend that they don't exist.

You sound religious.

262 posted on 11/28/2005 12:40:52 PM PST by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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To: Right Wing Professor

"Skin cancer doesn't significantly reduce average life expectancy."

If it's left untreated, it possibly can.

"As opposed to the rest of what you just posted?"

Just responding to your thoughts and post on "So you think if you slap on the SPF 30, you can live until you're 900?"

It would be an interesting if you could. I've already got some good product names..."Hell on Earth" (assuming you'd be married to the same woman for 900 years). Or maybe "Death B Gon". Maybe "Tax Slave". Can you imagine paying taxes for 900 years?!?


263 posted on 11/28/2005 12:44:47 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Theophilus

Non-sequitur. Do you have an argument or just inane one-liners in abscence of rationality?


264 posted on 11/28/2005 12:48:58 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: WKUHilltopper
If it's left untreated, it possibly can.

Average life expectancy is a statistical average over a population. If you get skin cancer and decide not to treat it, it will have a negligible effect on the average life expectancy.

It would be an interesting if you could. I've already got some good product names..."Hell on Earth" (assuming you'd be married to the same woman for 900 years). Or maybe "Death B Gon". Maybe "Tax Slave". Can you imagine paying taxes for 900 years?!?

LOL!

And besides, if they think Social Security is in trouble now, wait until they add a few Methuselahs!

265 posted on 11/28/2005 12:49:37 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dimensio; Theophilus

Calling you religious was supposed to be an insult apparently.


266 posted on 11/28/2005 12:50:37 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor

social security would kick in at year 675...


267 posted on 11/28/2005 12:53:49 PM PST by durasell
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To: Right Wing Professor

"Average life expectancy is a statistical average over a population. If you get skin cancer and decide not to treat it, it will have a negligible effect on the average life expectancy."

I got ya now. Statistically speaking, yes, you're probably right. I was thinking more in terms of an individual.

"And besides, if they think Social Security is in trouble now, wait until they add a few Methuselahs!"

LOL! Yeah, but I'm betting your friendly federal government would increase the mandatory benefit qualification age to 899 years!


268 posted on 11/28/2005 12:55:01 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: mlc9852




Well, what if another fundamentalist Christian choose the version where God creates Man and then in searching for a companion for man, creates animals, and then finally takes a rib from Adam and makes Eve. Because the first version says that God created humans. The first version is the Priestly version. The second version is the J or Yahwist version.


269 posted on 11/28/2005 12:56:15 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I'll go with the first version.


270 posted on 11/28/2005 1:00:19 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: curiosity

I believe in God. I also believe the same as you. I don't think that "6 days" has to be taken literally; I think that evolution may not be at odds with the common beliefs how Christians interpret the Bible - just a matter of time and perception. I believe that it is enough to believe that there is such as Faith.


271 posted on 11/28/2005 1:01:45 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: THEUPMAN
but before Adam took from the tree death was not in the world.

Not even individual cells?

272 posted on 11/28/2005 1:02:19 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Gaffer

I believe God created evolution.


273 posted on 11/28/2005 1:03:49 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: tutstar
Some say yes.

Its hard to understand but for some it is possible.

A different question may be...

Will you go to heaven if you believe evolution?
274 posted on 11/28/2005 1:10:01 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Dimensio
Oops, sorry, didn't mean to indicate that all evolutionists are atheists. However, those who don't accept the premise that there is a God (or Intelligent Designer) have to look for an alternative explanation of how persons developed from particles.
275 posted on 11/28/2005 1:17:06 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Dimensio
Do you have an argument

My opinion is that you believe in evolution religiously. You believe that evolution has been observed, just as some believe they observe Mary weeping.


276 posted on 11/28/2005 1:26:19 PM PST by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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To: PatrickHenry
You believe that evolution has been observed, just as some believe they observe Mary weeping.

Brain on creationism alert

277 posted on 11/28/2005 1:30:39 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Coyoteman
Homo erectus is a human morphology, as is Flores, and others. A good discussion of the subject is here.
278 posted on 11/28/2005 1:39:05 PM PST by johnnyb_61820
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To: Quark2005
The other index. Most of the T.O responses are made by misrepresenting the creationist position, the evidence, or both. On occasion they point out old or bad arguments that need to be put to bed, but a whole lot of it is misrepresentation.
279 posted on 11/28/2005 1:41:15 PM PST by johnnyb_61820
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To: PatrickHenry
Christians can't afford to oppose evolution [says evangelical-biologist]

Christians can't afford to follow the word of [evangelical-biologists] if they don't adhere to the word of God !

280 posted on 11/28/2005 1:44:08 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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