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Oakland grocers set to fight vandals ('Your Black Muslim Bakery' was involved - guns come out)
Inside Bay Area ^ | 11/27/05 | William Brand

Posted on 11/27/2005 1:29:23 PM PST by Libloather

Oakland grocers set to fight vandals
Police say they will have more details this week in the attacks on two liquor stores
By William Brand, STAFF WRITER


NATION OF ISLAM minister Tony Muhammad, standing in front of Muhammad Mosque 26 in Oakland on Saturday, says the Nation had no part in the destruction inside two West Oakland liquor stores Wednesday night. (GREG TARCZYNSKI)

OAKLAND — The president of the Yemini American Grocery Association said Saturday that grocers have the right to defend themselves if their stores are invaded like two West Oakland markets were hit Wednesday night. The association, which represents about 300 store owners in Oakland, Berkeley and Richmond, is not telling grocers to buy guns and shoot, said Mohamad Saleh Mohamad. "But if they have a permit for a gun, they can legally defend themselves."

"The storekeepers are very devastated," Mohamad said. "You would be too if 12 men came into your house or business ... did damage like they did."

"This was a criminal act. It had nothing to do with religion, In this country we have the right to do business. We are selling legal products. The whole community is angry," Mohamad said.

Late Saturday, a group of about 30 Nation of Islam members marched around West Oakland handing out fliers, condemning the violence against the markets.

Among other stores, they passed a new market operated by a Yemini man whose store on Third Street in Richmond was attacked by men in a fashion exactly like the attacks on the two Oakland stores last week.

"They told me not to sell alcohol or they would be back. They didn't come back." The grocer, who asked not to be identified, said the attack ruined his business and he closed the store. His new store does not sell alcohol.

Oakland Deputy Police Chief Howard Jordan, who is heading up the investigation into the attacks on San Pablo Market and Liquor and New York Market, said police expect to make an announcement early this week.

"When we do, it will put this whole thing into perspective," he said. "We're still looking at it as a hate crime."

Oakland passed one of the first hate crime laws in the country, following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It levies heavy fines and other penalties on anyone convicted of such a crime.

The grocers said police told them they have identified some of the suspects from surveillance camera video at San Pablo Market.

Jordan said investigators are still working to positively identify all of the suspects in the two attacks.

The attackers, wearing suits and bow ties, some carrying clubs, smashed displays and refrigerator units containing alcoholic beverages. They threatened store employees and told them not to sell alcohol to the African-American community.

Police suspect men associated with Your Black Muslim Bakery were involved. But a bakery representative Friday said he had no idea who was involved. The bakery, founded by the late Yusef Bey, is a commercial business, not an Islamic organization. The group is conducting its own investigation, the representative said.

Also Saturday, Minister Tony Muhammad, the western regional representative for Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam, said the Nation was not responsible for the attacks.

"We may disagree with what you are doing, but we will protest peacefully," he said.

At a news conference in front of Oakland Mosque 26B, 5277 Foothill Blvd., Minister Muhammad said the actions will be found to be by a few people. "I guarantee to you this is isolated and only involves a few people. The many shouldn't be blamed for what a few have done."

He urged the police to press their case and make arrests. Deputy Chief Jordan said he met with Nation of Islam officials Saturday. The mosque is not connected to the Black Muslim Bakery.

Minister Muhammad was accompanied by a number of mosque members and several East Bay officials, including Alameda County Supervisor Keith Jordan, Oakland City Councilmember Desley Brooks (East Oakland) and Paul Cobb, publisher of the Oakland Post.

Supervisor Carson said he has worked with Nation of Islam officials for many years. "Their history has always been positive." They work with young men and women in our penal institutions and do many good works.

Councilmember Brooks said she also is familiar with the Nation: "They do not commit acts of violence."

Both Brooks and Cobb said they hope the attacks don't spread fear of black men in suits. "The Nation of Islam people do nothing but good," she said.

Cobb noted that there are some liquor stores next to churches in Oakland: "What if a man from a church goes into the store to buy something? We hope he won't be feared just because he was wearing a suit."


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Guns work.
1 posted on 11/27/2005 1:29:25 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Bingo. May I suggest either a 9mm Baretta or even a Colt .45. Both have great persuasion power, before and after use.


2 posted on 11/27/2005 1:32:24 PM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Libloather
"I guarantee to you this is isolated and only involves a few people. The many shouldn't be blamed for what a few have done."

Trying to be the victim, again.

3 posted on 11/27/2005 1:33:10 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Libloather
They only work if you aim them at the person smashing your stuff and pull the trigger repeatedly until they are dead.

L

4 posted on 11/27/2005 1:33:29 PM PST by Lurker ("Son, there's only two things you need in this world; love and a .45.")
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To: Libloather

... and Teddy Kennedy is palpably distraught, caught on the horns of a dilemma as he is ... liquor, or opressed minorities? Hmmm, what to do, what to do.


5 posted on 11/27/2005 1:33:55 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Libloather

Cant Oakland disarm these 'vigilantes' before someone gets hurt...?


6 posted on 11/27/2005 1:38:44 PM PST by mmercier (For the angry Gods to see)
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To: armydawg1

For this job,a shotgun.The 12 pellet oo buck load works first time-every time.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 1:38:53 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: mmercier
Can't Oakland disarm these 'vigilantes' before someone gets hurt...?

You could outlaw guns in Oakland - but what about the transients coming in from San Fran?

8 posted on 11/27/2005 1:42:48 PM PST by Libloather (Geena Davis isn't man enough to play Hillary on TV. Heck, BILL isn't man enough to play Hillary...)
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To: Libloather
There is no mystery here. The Nation of Islam is an organized crime syndicate that makes millions of dollars in "protection" services.

They could care less about alcohol sales. They want to sell "protection" to their "brothers". They are really no different that Jesse Jackson, Danny Bakewell, or any of the other organized crime business that prey upon blacks.
9 posted on 11/27/2005 1:48:57 PM PST by LA Conservative (Read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam by Robert Spencer)
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To: Libloather

Typcial left wing garbage. Speak out against an act and then continue to act in same manner.


10 posted on 11/27/2005 1:49:41 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: LA Conservative

"They are really no different that Jesse Jackson..."

Careful, you'll get Jesse mad as hell and he'll come storming to Oakland to demand reparations...


11 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:21 PM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: Libloather
The president of the Yemini American Grocery Association ... Mohamad Saleh Mohamad

Minister Tony Muhammad, the western regional representative for Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam

Mohamad vs. Muhammed... Should get interesting!

12 posted on 11/27/2005 1:53:26 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Mohamad vs. Muhammed... Should get interesting!

The WWF could make a mint...

13 posted on 11/27/2005 1:57:12 PM PST by Libloather (Geena Davis isn't man enough to play Hillary on TV. Heck, BILL isn't man enough to play Hillary...)
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To: Libloather
>> but what about the transients coming in from San Fran?

I expect the San Francisco resident relocating after registering a handgun will be more hotly pursued than an ms13 gang banger with three deportations and a recent assault arrest and default warrant.

The place is sdrawkcabssa.
15 posted on 11/27/2005 2:05:55 PM PST by mmercier (all is lost there)
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To: Libloather
This was a criminal act. It had nothing to do with religion, In this country we have the right to do business

More LIES from the Religion of Peace.

And calling them vandals is like calling the terrorists in Iraq "insurgents". IT CAN HAPPEN HERE.

These criminals are RACKETEERS:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racketeering

rack·et·eer n.
A person who commits crimes such as extortion, loansharking, bribery, and obstruction of justice in furtherance of illegal business activities.

The attorney general should come down hard on them.

16 posted on 11/27/2005 2:09:49 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Libloather

at least there not in San Fran.
San Fran voters might want to rethink there special election on the gun issue. At least the store owners can protect themselves. And regardless of who these people are Who gives them the right to go into a store and destroy it what is next people who don't like Christmas going in and ripping the Christmas isle apart??? Or the fat police going in to the grocery store and claiming the twinkie defense.


17 posted on 11/27/2005 2:14:56 PM PST by proudCArepublican
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To: Libloather
"When we do, it will put this whole thing into perspective," he said. "We're still looking at it as a hate crime."

Black on black, and muslim on muslim.

Where is the "minority" victim here?

Or are they unaware of who the perp is?

This is Islamic extremism waging jihad in America. A crime known as racketeering. Use the RICO Act to seize Nation Of Islam funds. Shut them down the same way RICO has been used to shut down the Klan.

18 posted on 11/27/2005 2:15:05 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Uhhuh35
Or stop selling alcohol to black people.

I'm hip. Them white folks aren't really a problem liquored up - eh?

19 posted on 11/27/2005 2:16:10 PM PST by Libloather (Geena Davis isn't man enough to play Hillary on TV. Heck, BILL isn't man enough to play Hillary...)
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To: proudCArepublican
The media hasn't denounced the Earth Firsters for standing on principle and torching SUVs, whether owned by an individual or on a dealer's lot.

The same media HAS denounced the entire anti-abortion movement on the violent and criminal acts of literally a handful of individuals nationwide.

20 posted on 11/27/2005 2:19:05 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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