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Fifty babies a year are alive after abortion (UK)
The Sunday Times - Britain ^ | November 27, 2005 | Lois Rogers

Posted on 11/27/2005 9:00:27 AM PST by Balding_Eagle

A GOVERNMENT agency is launching an inquiry into doctors’ reports that up to 50 babies a year are born alive after botched National Health Service abortions.

The investigation, by the Confidential Enquiry into Maternal and Child Health (CEMACH), comes amid growing unease among clinicians over a legal ambiguity that could see them being charged with infanticide................

Its guidelines say that babies aborted after more than 21 weeks and six days of gestation should have their hearts stopped by an injection of potassium chloride before being delivered. In practice, few doctors are willing or able to perform the delicate procedure..................

“They can be born breathing and crying at 19 weeks’ gestation,” he said. “I am not anti-abortion, but as far as I am concerned this is sub-standard medicine.”......................

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionsurvivors

1 posted on 11/27/2005 9:00:28 AM PST by Balding_Eagle
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To: Balding_Eagle

50 survived. Oops! They can't have this.


2 posted on 11/27/2005 9:02:34 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Balding_Eagle
Its guidelines say that babies aborted after more than 21 weeks and six days of gestation should have their hearts stopped by an injection of potassium chloride before being delivered.
Yes, pre-murdering them should take care of the problem.
3 posted on 11/27/2005 9:04:33 AM PST by Clara Lou
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France and Germany permit “social” abortions only up to the 10th and 12th weeks respectively.

This is another quote from the article. It sounds like France and Germany have more restrictive abortion laws than we do.

Thanks for posting this article. I used to be pro-"choice", but it is articles like this one and the advance of ultrasounds which have turned me around.

4 posted on 11/27/2005 9:07:48 AM PST by LizJ
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To: Balding_Eagle

I guess they'll keep importing Muslims so they can keep abortion legal.


5 posted on 11/27/2005 9:09:10 AM PST by floridavoter2
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To: Clara Lou
Its guidelines say that babies aborted after more than 21 weeks and six days of gestation should have their hearts stopped by an injection of potassium chloride before being delivered

Isn't the terminology wonderful? Not "kill them" but "stop their hearts" - how mechanical. Just little unfeeling, unthinking robots in there, no big deal, just shut down the machinery, that'll make it all OK.

7 posted on 11/27/2005 9:12:30 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Balding_Eagle
“I am not anti-abortion, but as far as I am concerned this is sub-standard medicine.”

This would be easier to take if he just said he didn't care one way or another about babies. But, committing murder and calling it sub-standard medicine.... I wonder if the men who dropped the zyclon B into the gas chambers at Dachau felt they were just involved in a little "sub-standard medicine?" What we have become is truly terrifying.

8 posted on 11/27/2005 9:14:15 AM PST by Casloy
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To: Balding_Eagle
“I am not anti-abortion, but as far as I am concerned this is sub-standard medicine.”......................

That came from a doctor's mouth! Sub-standard medicine my eye! That is murder, pure and simple, I don't care how you try to dress it up!

Totally disgusting!

9 posted on 11/27/2005 9:17:15 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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"...a legal ambiguity that could see them being charged with infanticide..."

We can only hope. It's impossible for me to understand how any person, especially a doctor - sworn to preserve life, could do such an act. They truly have sold their soul to satan - and satan has already collected and imprisoned it.
10 posted on 11/27/2005 9:18:03 AM PST by Adiemus
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. . . few doctors are willing or able to perform the delicate procedure . . .

Delicate, huh? Well, maybe it would be more direct just to bash their skulls in two with an axe. Wonder if anybody in the "sensitive" community would care.

11 posted on 11/27/2005 9:18:28 AM PST by madprof98
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To: LizJ

"It sounds like France and Germany have more restrictive abortion laws than we do."

Indeed they do, England does too, even if that is not emphasized in this article. My understanding is that the US has the most permissive abortion laws of any country, excluding of course China, with their forced abortion, but I guess that is not properly described as "permissive".

These countries likely got abortion legalized via the legislative process, not via judicial fiat as we did.


12 posted on 11/27/2005 9:22:13 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Balding_Eagle
For the abortion of younger foetuses, labour is induced by drugs in the expectation that the infant will not survive the birth process.

It seems that in Europe a fetus and an infant are the same thing. Hmmm. I guess that if there were no anti-abortion movement here the abortionists would not seek to distinguish a fetus from a baby. But for now they keep repeating the lie.

France and Germany permit "social" abortions only up to the 10th and 12th weeks respectively.

I have never heard the term "social abortion" before and I cringe at the prospect of what this might mean. Not sure I really want to know.

13 posted on 11/27/2005 9:26:30 AM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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" I have never heard the term "social abortion" before and I cringe at the prospect of what this might mean."

It's a distinction between abortion 'on demand' and for medical reasons. A later abortion can only be on grounds of a medicial threat to the health of mother or foetus.


14 posted on 11/27/2005 9:36:35 AM PST by Canard
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To: Between the Lines

Actually, strictly under British law, there are no 'social abortions'. For an abortion to take place, two doctors must agree that there is a risk of some physical or mental damage to the health of the mother if the pregnancy continues. In practice, obviously, all a pregnant woman has to do is to say that she doesn't want to continue the pregnancy which, in itself creates enough of 'a risk to her mental health if the pregnancy continues' to satisfy the requirements of the law.


15 posted on 11/27/2005 9:41:40 AM PST by Canard
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To: Casloy
What we have become is truly terrifying.

I agree. I'd like to see a congressional investigation into this topic here in the states. With a higher population, surely we have many more babies that survive the murder and are then murdered a second time or 3rd or 4th if the article is in any way correct.

There is sooooooooooo much wrong with this article that it's frightening.

“The survival of this child was not recorded in any official statistics,” Clarke said. “There is nothing at the moment to force abortion practitioners to account for their failures.”

Yeah, a baby survives murder and they call it a failure. Well there damned well ought to be a law to force them to account for their "failures"!

I better stop before I start swearing (more).

16 posted on 11/27/2005 9:44:02 AM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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Yeah, a baby survives murder and they call it a failure.

The first evil was the killing. The second evil was changing the language so we can keep it sanitary and sweep the evil under the carpet. Orwell's "Newspeak" is upon us.

17 posted on 11/27/2005 11:59:24 AM PST by Casloy
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"France and Germany permit 'social' abortions only up to the 10th and 12th weeks respectively."

Somehow I doubt Ginsburg will be quoting those particular foreign statutes.


18 posted on 11/28/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by madconservative
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This is a shocking view of the babies that have been aborted. A friend of mine put these pictures up on her blog as she responds to a sick article in the L.A. Times (warning, the pictures are graphic, but need to be seen):

http://msunderestimated.blogspot.com/2005/11/abort-child-be-born-again.html


19 posted on 11/30/2005 10:32:20 AM PST by FeeinTennessee (http://hometown.aol.com/feereports/feepolitics.html)
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