Thank God those idjits are not in power. And thank God we ignored their kind and did the right thing!
Posted on 11/26/2005 8:00:54 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy
You just never know what a Liberal will reveal under the influence of a little turkey and a little wine, but it's almost always worth taking the opportunity to find out just how deep the madness goes. Such was the "conversation" I had with a Liberal over Thanksgiving dinner, during which she confirmed her eligibility for a padded cell.
At some point during the conversation (which had been pleasantly inconsequential until this point) the Liberal went out of her way to mention that she "adopted" a black family through her work, donating some small part of her paycheck towards handouts to the poor. She was quite proud of herself, for a few moments. "How do you know the money is going to a black family?" I just had to ask. With a withering stare, the Liberal told me that she didn't know who they were, but the family lived in Trenton (NJ). "No poor white people live in Trenton?" I wondered, and was informed that if they do, they probably don't need the help.
Well, that was stunning news... or would have been, if Liberal racism was in any way surprising. "Why do some poor people need help, while those of a different skin color don't?" I wanted to know. Obviously, the Liberal told me, the rich force black people into a cycle of dependency, so they need help to break out of it. "The rich are all white, then?" I asked. Of course, the Liberal said. The rich are either whites, or their lackeys. "Oh, of course," I said. "So all black people who don't get help from or work for rich white people like yourself are forced to stay poor by a conspiracy of other rich white people. Makes perfect sense. And they can't possibly become self-reliant and independent... why, exactly?" At this point, others began moving the breakable objects off the table. I never did find out how being dependent on rich white Liberals was any different from being dependent on rich white Conservatives.
Apparently, according to this Liberal, black people are victims of The System, a cabal of evil rich white men who run the government (unless Democrats are in office). The System deliberately creates bad schools wherever black people happen to live by not spending enough money on them. The Liberal answer to a sub-standard educational system is not to increase accountability for teachers -- because teachers will simply move to other schools -- but to simply put more money into the underperforming schools. The fact that this has had no effect in the past slips right through their grasp.
So that's why the government is responsible for feeding and clothing poor black people -- rich white people deliberately make them poor and uneducated in the first place, somehow. And when the government fails to take care of them, it's up to "decent" Liberal people like my conversation partner to give them money. "George Bush," she declared, "has divided this country into the 'haves' and the 'have-nots.' He's destroying the middle class with his tax cuts."
How does one even begin to respond to this kind of lunacy, other than calling for the white-coated men with butterfly nets? Nevertheless, I was game. "Aside from the fact that a good portion of your 'have-nots' own houses, cars and televisions, and that varying divisions of property have existed from the dawn of time, how do you think that cutting taxes hurts the middle class, which is the only group that actually pays income tax?" I asked. "But let's not get into that. What makes you think that simply handing out cash to people -- regardless of color -- helps them at all?" "It gives them some self-respect, by allowing them to have decent clothes to wear and food to eat," the Liberal asserted.
"So let me get this straight," I said. "Taking handouts from rich, white Liberals, knowing that he is dependent on those handouts for food and clothing, is supposed to bring a poor black person -- or any person -- more self-respect than learning marketable skills, getting a job and working himself out of poverty? And why don't white people need that kind of help, as you said earlier? What about Bill Cosby, and his assertion that black people need to take responsibility for themselves instead of propagating dependency?"
And the Liberal revealed her true self: "Because poor black people aren't as capable of raising themselves out of the gutter, or they'd have done so by now. They just can't. Bill Cosby is full of it."
Whew. I just stared at her. After a half-dozen heartbeats of uncomfortable silence, she realised her mistake and tried to recover, in Liberal fashion: "It's all George Bush's fault, anyway. If he wasn't throwing our money away on this war in Iraq just so his oil buddies could get free oil, then the government would have enough money to help people here at home. All this war is doing is wrecking the Middle East and our relationship with our friends."
So, I wondered aloud, freeing millions of people from tyranny, bringing democratic government to the Middle East and taking out supporters of terrorist groups didn't mean anything when stacked up against the disapproval of Saddam's puppets in the French and Russian governments? Were the mass graves somehow a good thing? And just where was all this oil that was supposedly stolen?
"Everybody knows Iraq's oil was stolen. But that's not important," she said. "What really matters is that we had no right to take Saddam out of office, and it won't stop terrorism. Without someone to keep them in check, those Arabs or whatever just run around killing at will. We shouldn't have given them an excuse to attack us by even buying oil from Middle Eastern countries in the first place. Let them kill each other; what do we care? But no, now they hate us. Now that they lost Saddam, you can see how the Iraqis are slaughtering our soldiers. It's on the news every day. They just can't handle freedom and democracy and all that. Those people need a dictator."
Those people need a dictator. Chilling, isn't it? For a moment, I was too amazed at the stark brutality of the Liberal's attitude to even hear the other lies. After all, though every death is mournful, the casualty rate we have suffered in the War on Terror has been remarkably low. Iraqis aren't "slaughtering" anyone; they're voting for representatives and ratifying their new constitution. The terrorists murdering Iraqi civilians and the occasional American soldier hated us long before a single American set foot in Iraq. But that one matter-of-fact statement overshadowed all the rest.
Those people need a dictator. This was no college-age peace-marching patchouli-stinking dope-smoking revolutionary wanna-be wearing a Ché Guevara shirt, mind you. I had this conversation with a highly intelligent corporate lawyer, respected in her firm, who earns a six-figure salary. This is also a person who donates heavily, in both time and money, to the Democratic party.
This is precisely the type of person who determines that party's platform and nominees, based on emotion, hypocrisy, racism and faulty logic.
No one, no one, "needs" a dictator.
This patronising sort of racism is the fundamental heart of Liberalism today. "These people" can't take care of themselves properly, so they need government help. "Those people" need a dictator to control their innate murderous tendencies; they're not capable of handling freedom and democracy. They can't help themselves, darling; it's natural for them to be lazy, shiftless, uneducated, subservient, or just plain crazy. They're not like us, you know.
Can we afford to simply throw up our hands in disgust and let the far Left persist in repeating their delusions unchallenged? To do so would be to abandon the future to the whims of madmen and demagogues. The slick conspiracy theory du jour, whatever lets Liberals indulge their feelings of superiority, will always gain traction with those who use emotion in place of reason. The way to fight these misbegotten ideas is with truth, fact and logic.
The only answer is to continue to demand proof of their accusations, challenge their positions and point out the inconsistencies in their logic, no matter how it upsets them. However exhausting it is to refute the same Liberal lies day after day, allowing them to drive this country into a Socialist, self-hating darkness would be far worse. For all of us.
So, you had a turkey for dinner. Anything else?
Well, it's confirmed. Liberals ARE really that stupid!
Liberals will not drive this country into socialism. It is the free market globalists in the GOP who thinks CEO have no obligations to their nation of birth, except blind profit will drive this nation into socialism. Undercutting workers wages by importing H-1B workers, and outsourcing every job possible overseas, and the RINO who refuses to deal with our open borders will destroy the US middle class and drive desperate workers into the arms of the Democratic Leftwing who will come to power by them and create the Socialist world we all are trying to avoid.
Interesting story. Sounds very familiar. I have had many such thanksgiving conversations with my liberal extended family. There is no logic and reason with them. Their entire political thought process is bumpersticker thinking. Cute little meaningless sayings.
I once had a "peacenik" "pacifist" liberal tell me that the kurds deserved to get mustard gassed by the Saddam.
The liberals I sup with despise Bush, but it;s because he's a CHRISTIAN.
I had a liberal older lady back away, holding her head, AGHAST that I was "One of THOSE"!!! It was LOL funny! Another, spewed anti-Christian crap KNOWING that I am a Catholic and not feeling the LEAST uncomfortable about dissing Christians to my face.... I can ONLY imagine what they say when a Christian is not in their midst!! Pitiful people.
Thank God those idjits are not in power. And thank God we ignored their kind and did the right thing!
OTH, they always want to play some kind of brain engaging game and I kick their butts every year. It kills them.
Please. They're not stupid. They're evil.
Now I'm not sticking up for the Lib in the story, I'm just stating an opinion on the subject.
Dude needs to find somewhere else to eat Thanksgiving dinner.
I hope this wasn't a family member.
Nasty,
Sadly, your conversation with this woman is a fairly representative example of what passes for "intellectual discussion" with a Liberal in the 21st Century. And you're right, it's not just the brainwashed college kids or the 1960's radicals trying to relive their sordid past, the lack of coherent rhetoric is pervasive among those who identify themselves as "liberal" or their newest euphemism for their warped view of the world...Progressive.
I have a pretty good Thanksgiving story as well. A close friend of mine is back after serving in Afghanistan. He and his Father, who was one of the most highly decorated soldiers of the entire Vietnam War, get together for Thanksgiving dinner with some family members. Now the Father who was a big-time war hero, has a sister who is a 1960's style Liberal. She and her Liberal husband have raised hideously left wing kids, including a college student daughter who is one of those would-be Eco Terrorist Leftists who the media calls the anti-Globalization crowd. Well, at Thanksgiving daughter, the topic of politics comes up, and the Left Wing daughter starts going on about George Bush being the world's biggest terrorist, and the armed forces being a bunch of brainwashed morons who risk their lives for "corporate America" and all the usual left wing drivel. My friend starts trying to engage in argument with her, but his father remains silent. After some back and forth, the Left Wing daughter and her parents then express the view that 9/11 was actually done by the Bush Administration to give them a reason to go to war and win the 2004 election. Well, right in the middle of a bite of turkey, my friend's Father stands up, goes OFF on these idiots for about a minute, then tells his family to get their coats, and right in the middle of dinner they drove 90 minutes home. This poor guy just couldn't take listening to it after giving part of his body during THREE tours in Nam...this is the kind of thing that Left Wingers are doing to America with their insane rhetoric.
It's a misnomer. There's nothing liberal, as in free, about liberals. It's why I refer to them as leftists instead.
Socialism is nothing more than slavery, without the honesty of the situation.
I hate to bring it up, but the lady lawyer may turn out to have a point.
It does appear that the Yugoslavs needed a dictator, if they were to continue as a single country anyway. Remove the dictator and his country, which had been quite functional by Eastern European commie standards, blew apart in civil war.
We have yet to find out if the same thing will happen in Iraq. I'm cautiously hopeful that it won't, but I'm certainly not going to be shocked if Iraq is not an intact functioning democracy in five years.
I must have been at that Thanksgiving dinner...wait... No, it was my mom who made that same statement.
"To be honest, I do not know if these folks over there can handle freedom like ours."
I agree. Their society is such that they will have a very hard time accepting the results of any election. I think that will be the biggest challenge for them. Hopefully they'll get it right... we'll find out soon enough.
This story reminds me of similar one's and circumstances you've told me. Sound like anyone you know?
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