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Why son refused to stand
The Courier News ^ | 11/25/05 | EMS Fire Lt. Robert Bedard

Posted on 11/25/2005 3:01:56 PM PST by chicagolady

I am the father of the young man who did not stand for the singing of the Mexican national anthem during a cultural awareness program at Larkin High School.

I have been constantly asked to explain the details of the event, and it is in response to these individuals that I offer the following facts.

Some of the students, my son included, were compelled to attend this assembly. The Mexican national anthem was printed on fliers and handed out to the attending students. The Mexican flag was marched in and placed on a podium by itself. The attendees were then asked to stand and sing the Mexican national anthem.

My son was not alone in his refusal to stand. Statements given to me by other youths and parents put the number of refusals at close to 20.

Larkin staff members immediately confronted the seated youth. Some of the students were threatened with in-school suspension; most of the seated students were intimidated into standing.

My son explained to the angry teacher who confronted him that he did not see a U.S. flag on the podium and he did not believe they were going to sing our national anthem. This teacher stated, "They have to stand for our national anthem, so you have to stand for theirs."

My son stated in response, "Yeah, but they're in our country."

The teacher called my son a punk and sent him to the office. The administrator in the office supported the teacher's demand and told my son that he could have made a more intelligent decision. My son was not formally disciplined. The teacher who confronted my son defended her actions to her students during class the following week.

I called Larkin principal Richard Webb to express my disappointment and concern. I described the manner in which my son had been treated. I was told that my son should have stood and that the school stood by its right to have this assembly in its chosen form.

I then exercised my right as a citizen and addressed the school board.

The press was present at the board meeting and media awareness snowballed from that point forward. Some of my statements to the board included, "I am disappointed that those responsible for creating an assembly intended to educate and sensitize Americans also felt free to act insensitively with regard to our culture. It is permissible to present another country's anthem alongside ours and receive standing respect. It is not reasonable to expect or demand that Americans stand and display respect for another flag and country in absence of the American anthem or flag."

I also asked the board to consider two positive actions. "First, encourage Larkin High School administrators to not underscore one culture to the exclusion of others. This ill-conceived mandatory assembly did nothing but widen the current schism. Second, I would ask the board to lay down some principles for future assemblies. While it is good educational practice to teach about other cultures, it is not an acceptable practice to require mandatory response to the patriotic elements of those cultures."

I was appalled by Webb's printed statement. Apologizing only for the "unfortunate spotlight" placed on the school does not acknowledge the process that brought the spotlight. Lack of proper oversight created an assembly that offended a large number of people. Teachers behaving badly guaranteed parental follow-through. Administrative silence and denial has perpetuated their arrogant image.

Trivializing the incident and belittling those it concerned has only confirmed Webb's lack of grounding with the community.

Since Dec. 8, 2004, educational institutions receiving federal funding are required to hold an educational program pertaining to the United States Constitution on Sept. 17 of each year. This year, Sept. 17 fell on a Saturday.

Our high school apparently chose on Sept. 16 not to hold an assembly on the Constitution of the United States, but to educate our youth on the patriotic elements of another country.

- Bedard is an Elgin resident.

11/25/05


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderslanguage; cowardpcbastards; culture; diversityeducation; dontstandforthis; education; immigrantlist; larkinschoolsucks; mexicananthem; mexicosucks; pcnonsense; principalsuckstoo; punkprincpal; punkschoolboard; punkteacher; teachersucks; theiranthemsucks
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To: fellowpatriot

The same practice exists in both countries. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's also practiced in Korea and Vietnam.


61 posted on 11/25/2005 3:36:07 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
When are more parents going to wake up to what is going on in our schools?

Sigh. You've got me :(

62 posted on 11/25/2005 3:37:26 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: paulat

Are all anthems played or just one?

You hit rock bottom. Need a jackhammer to keep digging deeper?


63 posted on 11/25/2005 3:38:04 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
And you were required to attend? You had no choice but to stand? I don't believe you.

Did you ever attend a Catholic school in the 60s??? If the nuns told you to attend, you attended. If you were told to stand, you stood.

St. Patrick's Grade School...Rockford, Illinois.

64 posted on 11/25/2005 3:38:25 PM PST by paulat
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To: Grizzled Bear

BTW...your tagline is MOST appropriate!


65 posted on 11/25/2005 3:39:52 PM PST by paulat
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To: chicagolady

The nuttiest conservaties resemble the nuttiest liberals in many ways.


66 posted on 11/25/2005 3:40:06 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: paulat
If the US flag wasn't displayed, and it wasn't, this isn't showing respect, it is trying to force PC on the children and make them except diversity and multiculturalism which seems to work so well in France and elsewhere.

This is about the proper protocol, showing the US flag and playing both the US anthem and the Mexican anthem. This wasn't done, which is actually a show of disrespect to the US, and shown by teachers who tried to force the children to show the same disrespect to the US by placing the Mexican flag and anthem over ours. If you can't se that then you have a problem, or maybe you are just a socialist at heart, huh?

67 posted on 11/25/2005 3:40:38 PM PST by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, I don't want to go!)
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To: paulat

Are you from Rockford?


68 posted on 11/25/2005 3:40:44 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady
The Mexican flag was marched in and placed on a podium by itself. The attendees were then asked to stand and sing the Mexican national anthem.

By itself? What happened to the National Flag of the United States? Shouldn’t it have already been in place? I thought Larkin High School was in the USA.
69 posted on 11/25/2005 3:41:17 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: calex59
Kind of full of yourself aren't you? After all you did mistake the poster for the man who wrote the article.

I am never full of myself.

I am simply...Focault.

70 posted on 11/25/2005 3:41:32 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: calex59
or maybe you are just a socialist at heart, huh?

No...read my posts and look at my history (if you only knew). I just have an aversion to people looking to be offended.

71 posted on 11/25/2005 3:42:52 PM PST by paulat
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To: Melas
Unfortunately , this kid and his father lack that kind of wisdom. Posting HTML

The real truth is you and Paulat lack any wisdom at all! This was showing tremendous disrespect to the US.

72 posted on 11/25/2005 3:43:23 PM PST by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, I don't want to go!)
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To: chicagolady

Born in Detroit, moved to Rockford at 4, lived there until college.


73 posted on 11/25/2005 3:43:50 PM PST by paulat
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Try checking out the people you're looking to slam...before you attempt to Log In!!!

You're Katherine Harris????
:o)

74 posted on 11/25/2005 3:43:51 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: paulat
The kid was not asked to put his hand over his heart or do anything except show common courtesy. The father should have explained to the kid about diplomacy.

Any time a foreign flag is displayed in a place of honor in the USA, the American Flag is also to be displayed – in a superior position (higher or to the right).
75 posted on 11/25/2005 3:45:11 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott
Any time a foreign flag is displayed in a place of honor in the USA, the American Flag is also to be displayed – in a superior position (higher or to the right).

Excellent point! I totally agree with you.

76 posted on 11/25/2005 3:47:13 PM PST by paulat
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To: Focault's Pendulum; Jim Robinson
I suggest you check in with JimRob and learn who I am.

Hey Jim, who is this guy abd why is he slinging your name around here?

77 posted on 11/25/2005 3:47:31 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Melas
You show courtesy to another country and its citizens without showing any disrespect to your own. Unfortunately , this kid and his father lack that kind of wisdom.

BUT, he wasn't in ANOTHER country; he was in his own country, which was not represented during the assembly (no American flag displayed, I believe.) Why were all of the students included in this assembly required to learn about Mexican history? If my family moved to another country, would I expect the educational system of that country to educate my kids on the country they left? Would I expect the citizens of that country to learn to speak English so I could function in thier society? No, and no. So, why is it that every memo I receive from my kids' schools is written in English on one side, and in Spanish on the other?

(Stepping off soapbox and donning flame-retardant jammies.)

78 posted on 11/25/2005 3:47:49 PM PST by mommybain (Proudly leaving the official work force, since 2004!)
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To: chicagolady

Thank you for posting the school info and principals email, I was so angered that I'd already looked it up and was emailing him when I checked back to the thread.

I hope we will all email him and first ask if this is a true and then express our opinions if it is. I cannot imagine how things have changed in our country, to be forced to honor a flag of another nation, not out of respect for that nation with our own flag alongside (and slightly higher :) ), but to force our children to accept only their flag as if they had conquered us.




79 posted on 11/25/2005 3:48:09 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Grizzled Bear

And you failed to answer the question. You are behaving in a very liberal/progressive manner.


80 posted on 11/25/2005 3:50:47 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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