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Why son refused to stand
The Courier News ^ | 11/25/05 | EMS Fire Lt. Robert Bedard

Posted on 11/25/2005 3:01:56 PM PST by chicagolady

I am the father of the young man who did not stand for the singing of the Mexican national anthem during a cultural awareness program at Larkin High School.

I have been constantly asked to explain the details of the event, and it is in response to these individuals that I offer the following facts.

Some of the students, my son included, were compelled to attend this assembly. The Mexican national anthem was printed on fliers and handed out to the attending students. The Mexican flag was marched in and placed on a podium by itself. The attendees were then asked to stand and sing the Mexican national anthem.

My son was not alone in his refusal to stand. Statements given to me by other youths and parents put the number of refusals at close to 20.

Larkin staff members immediately confronted the seated youth. Some of the students were threatened with in-school suspension; most of the seated students were intimidated into standing.

My son explained to the angry teacher who confronted him that he did not see a U.S. flag on the podium and he did not believe they were going to sing our national anthem. This teacher stated, "They have to stand for our national anthem, so you have to stand for theirs."

My son stated in response, "Yeah, but they're in our country."

The teacher called my son a punk and sent him to the office. The administrator in the office supported the teacher's demand and told my son that he could have made a more intelligent decision. My son was not formally disciplined. The teacher who confronted my son defended her actions to her students during class the following week.

I called Larkin principal Richard Webb to express my disappointment and concern. I described the manner in which my son had been treated. I was told that my son should have stood and that the school stood by its right to have this assembly in its chosen form.

I then exercised my right as a citizen and addressed the school board.

The press was present at the board meeting and media awareness snowballed from that point forward. Some of my statements to the board included, "I am disappointed that those responsible for creating an assembly intended to educate and sensitize Americans also felt free to act insensitively with regard to our culture. It is permissible to present another country's anthem alongside ours and receive standing respect. It is not reasonable to expect or demand that Americans stand and display respect for another flag and country in absence of the American anthem or flag."

I also asked the board to consider two positive actions. "First, encourage Larkin High School administrators to not underscore one culture to the exclusion of others. This ill-conceived mandatory assembly did nothing but widen the current schism. Second, I would ask the board to lay down some principles for future assemblies. While it is good educational practice to teach about other cultures, it is not an acceptable practice to require mandatory response to the patriotic elements of those cultures."

I was appalled by Webb's printed statement. Apologizing only for the "unfortunate spotlight" placed on the school does not acknowledge the process that brought the spotlight. Lack of proper oversight created an assembly that offended a large number of people. Teachers behaving badly guaranteed parental follow-through. Administrative silence and denial has perpetuated their arrogant image.

Trivializing the incident and belittling those it concerned has only confirmed Webb's lack of grounding with the community.

Since Dec. 8, 2004, educational institutions receiving federal funding are required to hold an educational program pertaining to the United States Constitution on Sept. 17 of each year. This year, Sept. 17 fell on a Saturday.

Our high school apparently chose on Sept. 16 not to hold an assembly on the Constitution of the United States, but to educate our youth on the patriotic elements of another country.

- Bedard is an Elgin resident.

11/25/05


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderslanguage; cowardpcbastards; culture; diversityeducation; dontstandforthis; education; immigrantlist; larkinschoolsucks; mexicananthem; mexicosucks; pcnonsense; principalsuckstoo; punkprincpal; punkschoolboard; punkteacher; teachersucks; theiranthemsucks
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To: chicagolady

RIGHT ON!This Multi-Culturalism Bull Sh*T has to be De-Railed!! This is The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!


281 posted on 11/26/2005 7:48:10 AM PST by bandleader
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To: chicagolady

You've raised a fine young man.


282 posted on 11/26/2005 8:00:50 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: Cicero

I think we can see where this young man gets his principles--from his father and family.

^^

Indeed. What a great kid.


283 posted on 11/26/2005 8:03:31 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Grizzled Bear; paulat

Sorry if I disrupted your emotional appeal. In the future read up on protocol before getting all feely on us.

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Bam!

BTW, thank you for your service, Bear.


284 posted on 11/26/2005 8:05:45 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: SALChamps03

He is not my son but I wish he was. We just brought our Illinois Minuteman Meeting to Elgin Illinois and honored the kid as best we could.


285 posted on 11/26/2005 8:10:40 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: paulat; alancarp

I went to St. Patrick's grade school. On March 17 every year...we were inundated with the Irish national anthem, flag, etc.

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I find this a little hard to believe. Okay, without Googling, tell us the name of the Irish national anthem.


286 posted on 11/26/2005 8:11:07 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Melas
It's perfectly ok to be a good American and still celebrate your heritage. No one complains when German Towns all through the USA celebrate Oktoberfest or when the Irish make a big deal out of St. Patricks day.

The difference is that these fascist schoolteachers are DEMANDING that these kids pay respect. No one should respect people who demand respect, especially when they tend not to respect you.

287 posted on 11/26/2005 8:26:47 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: rlmorel
Diversity is not what made this country great.

I don't agree. But I think the liberals have twisted this concept to the point where they embrace the most corrupt and diseased lifestyles.

"Diversity" should mean we should tolerate lifestyles that aren't toxic to the nation.

288 posted on 11/26/2005 8:42:14 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Bigg Red; paulat
God Bless you Red,

Many others said the same thing but he hasn't responded to the facts. At least he sticks around to keep posting though. Also; this one doesn't seem to have "typing tourettes syndrome."

I say we keep him around for laughs.
289 posted on 11/26/2005 8:53:26 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Buffettfan
We will see how well these liberals like it when their school is conquered and converted into Aztlan

Don't kid yourself. They'd love it. Just like the traitors who ran the Vichy puppet government for the Nazis during WWII, the liberals would collaborate with the Mexicans in an instant.

290 posted on 11/26/2005 8:57:44 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: jegoing
RE: "I'm tired of people appeasing these illegal squatters."

I agree. There's a lot more to this than respect / disrespect for flags and "diversity." In my post above I cited just one of thousands of available references.

We think in terms of legal and ILLEGAL immigration, assimilation, and more recently, cultural "diversity." It's always been America for Americans.

That's not true for many (most?) recent "immigrants."

IMO other countries are sending their citizens (non-resident citizens) here. The non-resident citizens of Mexico and other countries (diaspora) work here. That's all.

America is their "territory." It is a place to plant their flag and benefit the home country -- often in competition with other countries. Nothing more.

The wealth obtained from remittances is the gold -- for more advanced "developing countries" mining technology and businesses is even more valuable than gold.

We're not a country we're a place and the people who run this place are bad in the view of the "invaders" and not deserving of respect. Like the place, hate the management.

Our "education" system is often too willing to agree with the invaders; to wit, America is merely a place, a bad place.

Complaining to the school about what happened is like asking a dog to stop drinking out of the toilet. It's what they do.

291 posted on 11/26/2005 9:04:49 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Move over Henny Youngman.. please! "The most trusted news source." CNN)
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To: Dan Evans

Perhaps we do not disagree.

Diversity in the sense it is used by liberals today is a cancer. Basically they say "you do not have to be part of America to be an American" You can reject all things American including the work ethic, political system or culture.

I am not saying that different cultures that came to this country should have left their foods, sayings, beliefs and such behind. That is not only good, it IS what has made this country great. We take the good things others bring and make them American.

In turn, they embrace what America can contribute, and both the immigrant and America grow stronger as a result.

Diversity has a different meaning for liberals than it does for me, that is for sure. For them, it is a code word to describe cultural relativism and everything that implies. For me, it normally describes a range of different things, classes or objects.


292 posted on 11/26/2005 9:44:29 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: antisocial

Sounds good to me!


293 posted on 11/26/2005 9:53:17 AM PST by Uddercha0s
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To: chicagolady

Wait a few years and we WILL be standing for Mexican national anthem. I have never seen a country make it so easy to be invaded by another. This English/Spanish on signs and advertising is simply enhancing the efforts for US to be "recovered" by Mexico.


294 posted on 11/26/2005 9:56:28 AM PST by mel
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To: Melas; paulat

Oh, c'mon you two, just get a room. Swapping bodily fluids in public is so 90's. LOL.


295 posted on 11/26/2005 10:06:21 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Grizzled Bear
One of the most emotional moments in recent British history was when the Stars and Stripes was played by a British military band in the forecourt of Buckingham Palace. It was done as a show of sympathy and solidarity with the U.S. after 9/11.
296 posted on 11/26/2005 10:10:39 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: paulat
Did you ever attend a Catholic school in the 60s?

Yeah, I did. It was a private, parochial school that even taught RELIGION and opened the morning class with a PRAYER! How does this compare with our taxpayer funded PUBLIC schools?

297 posted on 11/26/2005 10:12:01 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: chicagolady

I love it.....yeah, but "they're in my country!"


298 posted on 11/26/2005 10:17:56 AM PST by missanne (Go to work, write letters to the editor!)
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To: paulat
If you are IN that country you absolutely should show respect for their anthem and all other such things.

I have been in Mexico on their Independence day and lustily participated with my shouted VIVA! for the "Grito." It was their independence day and I was a guest there and thought it proper to join them in their celebration of independence.

But we have a big problem in this counry with Multiculturalism sublimating our government and tradition to those from elsewhere.

Standing should NOT be forced. Listening to another anthem in school is perhaps interesting, perhaps educational. It should NEVER be treated as a formal requirement.

299 posted on 11/26/2005 10:27:55 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Let's tear down the observatory so we never get hit by a meteor again!)
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To: chicagolady

Please convey my thanks to the Illinois Minutemen for their honoring of the father and the son.


300 posted on 11/26/2005 10:56:51 AM PST by kilowhskey (Land of the free, because of the brave.)
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