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What If We Say No To RFID?
MND ^ | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 | John Longenecker

Posted on 11/24/2005 1:38:18 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy

I’ve been monitoring the RFID progress for more than a year now. As a Paramedic, I heard the concept of implanted chips as early as 1977. As a liberty enthusiast, I’ve become interested in just how intrusive these chips can be utilized in various applications, a little intrusive today, more intrusive tomorrow.

The danger of intrusive surveillance is in our making detrimental adjustments in our way of life, and in the abuses of mistake with no provision for penalty. The first reason is good enough.

As I’ve said about politics, the policies of preceding officials live on, and aren’t evaluated by the next generation of electorate, but are accepted as baseline truths or values without regard for examining any current need for them. Policies tend to become immortal this way.

Now we have a blend of the two on the horizon: technology with the potential of becoming exquisitely intrusive with incredible assurances that it will not become so, and the assistance of politicians who see the RFID chip’s potential yield of information, their surveillance range potential and ease of operation. And that’s only for today: what about tomorrow if today’s breakthroughs become tomorrow’s baselines?

This is not a good combination. It is not even rational to assure critics that abuses will never happen. It is not acceptable to allow any abuses as a cost of the benefits of the product. We’re not talking about the horseless carriage replacing the horse and buggy – Amish in Pennsylvania seem to do fine without electricity – we’re talking about intrusion becoming an accepted part of our way of life as today’s breakthroughs become tomorrow’s nightmares -- and then accepted as way of life.

As part of my monitoring the progress of the RFID movement, I read a recent article of November 21st, 2005 from RFID Journal, linked with permission here.

Mark Roberti writes in a cogent and polite tone, dignifying his industry’s position well. There are a few holes in his argument. I'll take only one of them, as a liberty enthusiast.

Mr. Roberti speaks about the power of the people, and how we – consumers with our power of protest (my words) – are in control of the future deployment of such chips.

Alright, Mr. Roberti: what if we simply said No? Will the industry continue to lobby Washington and others and continue to sell the public on the idea?

What if we say No? Today. Across the board. Prove that the industry respects the people and our power of protest.

What if we insist that No means No?

With such intrusive industries throughout America, No doesn’t mean a damned thing. Internet spyware is no longer a nuisance, it’s a costly crime, just an early foretaste of what lies ahead. Hijacking home pages is no longer a competitive edge, it’s now offensive. Pop-ups can be blocked, but no one within the industry exercised self-restraint – we had to fight back, and they still don’t take No for an answer. Maybe if they starve, they might quit, but that’s not in the immediate future, so the market doesn’t come to our aid – no help there.

No means No.

But I fear that the RFID industry will justify it as convenience and wonder aloud why we don’t elect convenience and the consumer benefits to come.

But what if we say No, Thanks?

In the end, looking back, we’ll know that they never stopped and that No meant nothing. We know that they want to convince us that resistance is futile and that RFID is in our future, like it or not.

Probably so. This is most probable because other industries depend so heavily on just ramming things down our throats that futility become a foregone conclusion for nearly every objection to this kind of thing. [Here is a link to a story this week where some have crossed the line after assuring us all that snooping would not occur. How do they promise it won't occur: ethics?]

This is where the country’s going to hell: where no doesn’t mean no anymore.

But it can be stopped on one ground: make the concept of sneaky household-stalking and eavesdropping so repugnant that it is made illegal nationwide as breaking and entering is – as unwelcome, as intrusive, uncontrollable by anyone, abused by potentially anyone, and a threat to the national security more than the return on investment in terms of safety. Going through thousands of intrusions to maybe get the one you’re looking for isn’t good for the safety of the country. No skin off their nose, right?

No responsible person can say that mistake, abuse and acceleration of the industry will not transpire, and that includes promises of industry representatives. And no responsible citizen can believe that worker bees won’t can’t retaliate or abuse the data and somehow keep it all at some acceptable level when industry promises are broken, as they will be.

Still, the industry smirks: what are you going to do about it? Then, they’re home free.

It’s not a matter of putting the toothpaste back in the tube – it’s a matter of cleaning up the mess and not squirting toothpaste anymore. As a matter of fact, get out of my medicine cabinet and get out of my house! [One application of RFID chips is monitoring whether you’re taking your prescription on time or not. Like that? ]

Life in America is not so complex that we need remote viewing electronics embedded in everything we own to divulge everywhere we go and everything we like or dislike. It’s all too subject to hostile interpretation, and that means loss of liberty. Privacy makes a household freer from abuse and mistake. Let’s keep it that way.

In this country, when we say No, we don’t have to say why.

The gaping defect in the promise of the industry is that the people will decide by acceptance or protest. Yeah, right. The RFID Industry doesn’t believe it for a second. I doubt very much that the industry will move out of the RFID biz just because we decline their magic lamp. You can’t opt-out of RFID.

I know it’s already here. The idea that RFID comes at all against our wishes another hour is proof positive enough that the industry’s respect for the people is – and has been, it seems – a lie.

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John Longenecker is author of Transfer Of Wealth – The Case For Nationwide Concealed Carry, available worldwide this December


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: reynoldsaluminum; rfid; tfh; tinfoil
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1 posted on 11/24/2005 1:38:18 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
I'm guessing Jessica Lunsford's parents wished she had had one...and for that matter, why not someone like John Evander Couey?

There are pros and cons to this argument
2 posted on 11/24/2005 1:41:01 PM PST by stm
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Right now the gewneral public can't even tell when something has RFID in it - there ought to be a small handheld detector.

Did you see the guy who showed up to the UN conference with with badge that had RFID wrapped in tin foil? Th U.N detained him.


3 posted on 11/24/2005 1:43:56 PM PST by gondramB
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To: stm

"I'm guessing Jessica Lunsford's parents wished she had had one...and for that matter, why not someone like John Evander Couey? "

They are really short range and nobody as of yet is talking about implanting them.


4 posted on 11/24/2005 1:45:19 PM PST by gondramB
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To: stm

"I'm guessing Jessica Lunsford's parents wished she had had one...and for that matter, why not someone like John Evander Couey?

There are pros and cons to this argument"

And the cons would include the ability for any child molester to come up to a child and tell their name, address and anything else that was encoded -that would be a leg up in convincing kids to go with the stranger.


5 posted on 11/24/2005 1:48:25 PM PST by gondramB
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To: gondramB

The military is talking about implanting them in soldiers, and the can be tracked for a quite a long distance


6 posted on 11/24/2005 1:48:42 PM PST by stm
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

It's too late.


7 posted on 11/24/2005 1:50:00 PM PST by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I think there are some misconceptions about RFID. It's relatively short range, it's not like GPS. There are uses of it (like Tommy Thompson's) that should be said no to. There are also uses of it that don't threaten our security.


8 posted on 11/24/2005 1:51:14 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: stm
I think a couple of hundred yards is the upper range - it depends on how you look at it as to whether that is "short range" or not.

Low-frequency RFID systems (30 KHz to 500 KHz) have short transmission ranges (generally less than six feet). High-frequency RFID systems (850 MHz to 950 MHz and 2.4 GHz to 2.5 GHz) offer longer transmission ranges (more than 90 feet). In general, the higher the frequency, the more expensive the system. RFID is sometimes called dedicated short range communication (DSRC).

http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci805987,00.html

9 posted on 11/24/2005 1:53:29 PM PST by gondramB
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I am assuming that we are releasing prisoners in the WOT with RFID implanted in them so we can find out whom they associate with and where they go.

Also: I am furious that police departments in the USA do not deliberately implant bicycles and other commonly stolen items with RFID devices, so they can lure scum to steal them and go to jail before they steal MY BIKE or other item belonging to ME. I lost a $300 bike in 2004 in Walnut Creek, California. The police just shrugged. They should have been out there using a Flypaper Strategy like we are using in Iraq. Same enemy almost: rifraff from Oakland are almost 100% anti-Bush and pro-Saddam...and they are the ones who go to the Republican communities of the East Bay of San Francisco to steal anything that isn't nailed down.

We need to take some lessons from Iraq, where I hope RFID is being used...and apply them to the anti-Bush criminal areas of the USA...at least in terms of planting valuable items like bicycles in nice areas that lie near poor areas...and cleaning up the poor areas by proactively trapping and arresting the scum that goes into the nice areas to steal.

Most who would disagree with me, probably have never been robbed of a $300+ item.


10 posted on 11/24/2005 2:10:29 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: gondramB

Also keep in mind those distances are "max distance readable by a commercially-viable reader", not "max distance readable by a price-no-object federal law enforcement reader"


11 posted on 11/24/2005 2:14:37 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (I do what the voices in lazamataz's head tell me to)
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To: GermanBusiness

If you buy it from Walmart it probably already has RFID in it.

With the right detector I can drive by your house and tell you what's in your medicine cabinet.


12 posted on 11/24/2005 2:14:40 PM PST by gondramB
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To: SauronOfMordor

"Also keep in mind those distances are "max distance readable by a commercially-viable reader", not "max distance readable by a price-no-object federal law enforcement reader""

Yes, that's why I more than doubled the stated maximum range but the truth is I don't know what systems the government has... but it's not really the government that worries me - it's when anybody can buy a detector for a couple of hundred dollars and spy on their neighbors and the kids wear ID bracelets that every pedophile can read.


13 posted on 11/24/2005 2:18:19 PM PST by gondramB
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
You can't say "No".


14 posted on 11/24/2005 2:18:55 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

seems like a good idea for kids or certain adults like hikers.


15 posted on 11/24/2005 2:19:43 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
"It is not even rational to assure critics that abuses will never happen."

Sorta like the Social Security number?

We hollered like hell that it was just a way for the gubm'nt to infringe (remember that word?) on us Americans as a free people. We were given all sorts of gubm'nt assurances (heh!) that it would never be used for anything but Social Security purposes.

Now look. You can't even get a driver's licence without disclosing it so the gubm'nt can trace you. They even claim that if you have one of the old SS cards that has "Not For Identification" on it, is invalid and that you have to get a new one that does not have that written on it.

We really DO trust the gubm'nt when they ASSURE us that RFID won't be abused. Yezzir! Sure do! Yup!

16 posted on 11/24/2005 2:24:59 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Without a doubt this technology will be abused unknown to average folks. Look at On-Star. It has such temendous capabilities but you hear nothing on what is really capable of doing.

Every On-Star capable auto can track and bug it's occupants. On-Star is just a license for the user interface.

It makes you wonder what is being done with the data that is collected from it.


17 posted on 11/24/2005 2:58:59 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Good piece on their vulnerabilities here.
18 posted on 11/24/2005 3:02:16 PM PST by n230099
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

RFID requires a scanner that has to be within one meter of the chip to detect it. Unless Big Brother plans on placing one scanner every couple of meters within the United States I don't think you really have anything to worry about.


19 posted on 11/24/2005 3:05:58 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Junior

"RFID requires a scanner that has to be within one meter of the chip to detect it. Unless Big Brother plans on placing one scanner every couple of meters within the United States I don't think you really have anything to worry about."

It depends on the detection frquency used - it can be a couple of hundred feet or more - check the link in post #6.


20 posted on 11/24/2005 3:24:25 PM PST by gondramB
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