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Harley Announces Recall of 13,400 Bikes
AP (Absolute Prevarication) ^ | 11/23/2005 | Staff

Posted on 11/23/2005 12:31:34 PM PST by Red Badger

MILWAUKEE (AP) -- Harley-Davidson Inc. issued a voluntary safety recall on 2006 model Dyna series motorcycles built between June 9 and Oct. 19 due to a transmission defect.

The company said late Tuesday the recall affects some 13,400 motorcycles and is expected to cost less than $5 million, which it will make reservations for in the fourth quarter.

Harley-Davidson also said it expects to meet its previously announced wholesale shipment target of 329,000 motorcycles for 2005.

The Milwaukee-based company said it will provide owners with free pickup and delivery and will make recall kits, which include three redesigned transmission components, available at dealerships starting the week of Dec. 12.

The defect may allow the motorcycles to go into a false neutral position even though the neutral indicator light is illuminated, it said.

"If that happens, the transmission could engage into first or second gear unexpectedly," Harley-Davidson spokesman Bob Klein said Wednesday.

Two accidents related to the problem were reported, but none resulted in injury, Klein said.

The defect resulted from a design flaw in the six-speed transmission, which replaced the five-speed on the Dyna to make for a smoother ride at highway speeds and increase fuel efficiency, Klein said.

The redesign also resulted in a change to the front forks, chassis and a wider rear tire.

Shipments of the 2006 Dyna had been delayed but resumed after a change to production, he said.

Harley-Davidson shares rose $1.20, or 2.2 percent, to $55.67 in Wednesday afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange, amid a general gain in market prices on optimism over consumer spending this holiday season.


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KEYWORDS: gearhead; harley; motorcycle; motorcycles; recall
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Ah, but taking it one step further, why does too hot result in detonation?


281 posted on 11/25/2005 10:54:40 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: blarney

Heh.
We can afford to laugh....;]


282 posted on 11/25/2005 10:57:26 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: -YYZ-

You earn respect, you don't automatically get it. So quit trying to demand respect for your bike and let it earn it's own. it won't get it that way and neither will you. I sadi nothing bad about rice bikes and watched you guys post after post try and bash the Harleys. Somehow through this method you think you will get respect? c'mon be serious.

Rice bikes do not produce the same kind of readily available power that the big vtwins do. They don't have the same pull. Yes they are fast but I will still smoke them on a strip and have done it on a regular basis. I pointed out the good points of Japanese bikes because I am fair and as opposed to you understand their different purposes.

Buell is gaining popularity quickley in Europe. Isn't that the place with all the superfast bikes and such? Oh yea so are the older Japanese bikes without all the plastic and garbage on them. They are updating the brakes, chaning them over to monoshock systems and learning they are better than all this new plastic covered bikes are. The racer plastic covered bike is on it's way out just like the superfat tire on the Vtwin is on it's way out. Naked bikes are whats becoming popular and for good reason.


283 posted on 11/25/2005 10:59:20 AM PST by blarney
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To: ReaganCowboy
ST1300 is an outstanding choice. Doesn't have as much power as the FJR but is allot easier to get one. the FJR1300 has a 6 month wait. No dealers stock them. Did I mention the FJR was motorcycle of the year for 2004. The 2005 has even more power and standard ABS.
But the ST is definitely an outstanding sport tourer.
284 posted on 11/25/2005 10:59:52 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Maybe in your house. Not in mine.)
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To: -YYZ-

That soared right over without making conteact, didn't it?


285 posted on 11/25/2005 11:02:01 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: -YYZ-
Hey, whatever turns your crank is fine with me. I'm perfectly happy to accept that not everyone looks for the same thing in a bike, but I don't often feel like I get the same respect back from many (most?) Harley owners

I'm sorry for that. It really shouldn't be that way. However, as you can see from Hottieboy's succession of insults and attacks here, it goes both ways.

But again, I could ask, is there something *inherently* (ie not a matter of taste) great about making power at low rpms?

Yes, and since you're thinking about a touring rig, you'll probably find out for yourself one day. The tractability of a low RPM engine is better, because you can stay in single gears longer. You'll shift less. Doesn't sound important, but when you're on the third leg of a 4,000 mile trip, it rocks.

As I've said, I would consider an H-D with this type of engine for a touring rig, but I don't think it is well suited to more sporting purposes.

Of course it's not as well suited to sporting purposes. This is what you and Hottieboy aren't completely understanding: Not everyone cares about sporting purposes. I sure as hell don't. I don't care who's bike is faster than mine. I just made my bike slower. I'm not moving in the "go-faster" direction.

286 posted on 11/25/2005 11:03:10 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: -YYZ-

To be truly honest, after reading your posts. I am willing to bet you are looking at something like gixxer.com and getting your information from there. You are most likely cutting and pasting questions from that page or one similar to it onto this. Like I said I truly believe you have no idea what you are talking about. You guys all the sudden start talking about how hp doesn't give the whole story but sure were stuck on it a page or two back before I started bringing up torque. You know why? because thats all your limited knowledge knew about. I think you suddenly jumped on google or something and typed in torque and started going from there. You have shown you truly don't understand how engines work and there is no need to confuse you or cause you to meltdown anymore so you start calling names again. It's a waste of time because as you get shown more and more you don't know what you are talking about you will jsut keep jumping from racing, to cornering, to hp, to cost and whatever other things you have tried to show you have some kind of knowledge in. It's become a waste of time.

If it will make you feel better we can have a spelling bee and I will lose, for ya...I promise.


287 posted on 11/25/2005 11:04:04 AM PST by blarney
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To: blarney

Vance & Hines.


288 posted on 11/25/2005 11:08:31 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: blarney

Again, you're making assumptions.

The respect I was talking about was for owners of non-H-D machines in general, and I see little enough of it from many H-D owners.

My last bike and my current bike would both pull any stock Harley, with the possible exception of the V-Rod, in a top-gear roll-on, despite the insanely tall gearing of 6th on my current bike. And then keep on going until they reached speeds unattainable to the Harleys, but as you say that is not important to many people (including myself, really, as I'd like to keep my license).

Yes, Buell is gaining popularity in Europe, but they still have a teeny-tiny portion of the market. I've yet to read a review of the new Buells with anything good to say about their handling characteristics, btw.

BTW, my last bike was a Kawasaki ZRX1100, just the type of non-plastic covered bike you refer to. My current bike is a Suzuki DL1000 (V-Strom). It does have some plastic, but not full coverage. It's definitely not by any means a race-replica. The engine is hung out on full display. It has a centrestand and hard bags and a windshield I can just look over the top off.


289 posted on 11/25/2005 11:09:21 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-
A combustion chamber that is coated with carbon deposits starts to glow if it gets too hot. That produces enough heat to fire the mixture before it is ready. The same principle applies to dieseling whereas glowing carbon deposits in a combustion chamber act as spark to keep the engine going after the key is switched off. Ever hear that? Notice it has a distinct knock and ping to it? That knock is the sound of a mixture being fired too soon. That is detonation.
290 posted on 11/25/2005 11:09:35 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Maybe in your house. Not in mine.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

From what I've heard, and from throwing a leg over one, the ST1300 is not the bike for the tall guy, say anything much over 6 feet tall. Other than that it's a good sport-touring bike, albeit a little bland.


291 posted on 11/25/2005 11:10:42 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: blarney; -YYZ-; HOTTIEBOY
Nah, -yyz- is a long time poster in bike threads here on FR. He knows his stuff. Most of the Harley bashing on his part is just a reaction to percieved slights against him from bikers. He's actually not a bad sort.

The only real argument over bikes he and I have is over loud pipes. He's against them, and they're music to my soul. My heart sings when I listen to my pipes as I roll down the road, and he'll never get it.

The troublemaker in this thread is Hottieboy who by his own admission deliberately set out to insult Harley-Davidson. Total lack of respect from that kid.

292 posted on 11/25/2005 11:11:20 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: -YYZ-

"BTW, your formula assumes that torque is expressed in ft-lbs, and the constant of 5252 is missing the units to make the conversion work. From a strictly physics/engineering point of view, you understand"

You have made my point in spades.

Here's my definition: Torque means never having to say "I shifted."


293 posted on 11/25/2005 11:11:31 AM PST by Poser (Waving and posing)
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To: Red Badger

Is this the first recall? I rode Harleys from 1970 – about 1998. Never saw a recall – or had a problem.
More Jap Crap propaganda?


294 posted on 11/25/2005 11:15:12 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: blarney

"To be truly honest, after reading your posts. I am willing to bet you are looking at something like gixxer.com and getting your information from there. You are most likely cutting and pasting questions from that page or one similar to it onto this."

And you'd lose that bet. I don't think I've ever geen to gixxer.com. Actually I don't really frequent the bike boards too much anymore - too many idiots.

"Like I said I truly believe you have no idea what you are talking about. You guys all the sudden start talking about how hp doesn't give the whole story but sure were stuck on it a page or two back before I started bringing up torque."

I'm afraid you've confused my comments with someone else. I never said HP is everything, although I stand by my statement that as a stand-alone number it tells you a little more than a peak torque number. As for jumping around, we start talking about production bikes and you introduce your mystery Harley drag-strip winner, which despite being street legal sure sounds to me like its purpose built to run at the drag strip.

As for the rest of your comments, whatever. Just stick your fingers in your ears and go "la la la la I can't hear you." It's clear that you've got the usual Harley-fan myopia when it comes to performance.


295 posted on 11/25/2005 11:18:41 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: Salamander

No, it didn't. I got the joke. WWPR = WWJD


296 posted on 11/25/2005 11:19:28 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: HOTTIEBOY
Harley's are the slowest, heaviest, most outdated, motorcycles in the world, yet are some of the most expensive.

I have ridden a Harley coast to coast twice. I stopped numerous time to help Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki ect riders numerous times. I never had a problem, nor have I had to help a Harley.
297 posted on 11/25/2005 11:20:07 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Melas
"Total lack of respect from that kid."
And, how old are you?

I told you I did not mean to offend you or anyone else. Although I am very much capable of doing so.
Allot of my buds ride Harleys and we respect each other. If that is there ride then fine. But don't be like blarney and say that they are faster. That is ridiculous.
298 posted on 11/25/2005 11:21:33 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Maybe in your house. Not in mine.)
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To: Yohan
…or some jap bike trying to look like one.

I remember back in the 70’s – 80’s and all the Jap Crap makers were trying to say the V- Twin was inefficient and obsolete. Now they all have V- twin bikes.
299 posted on 11/25/2005 11:22:48 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Bon mots

Don’t forget Lucas Electrics.


300 posted on 11/25/2005 11:24:09 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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