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Posted on 11/22/2005 12:28:26 PM PST by Icelander
fair enough
My point is and was and always has been, you don't win the Presidency or even the nomination when you are in the House of Representatives. It just doesn't happen and Tancredo IS NOT the candidate to change that.
Absolutely. I want to hear Tancredo and his voice for this issue in the debates. First the two party cartel shut out ANY 3rd (actually 2nd) view on anything in the debates. Now they want to shut out members of their own party. Party of inclusion, my butt. No one else hand picked by the media and a select few is going to touch this issue. It's past time it was addressed in a campaign year. Of course that's exactly what the 10%'ers want: the other 90% silenced.
No, you sure can't. Perfect.
BTTT!
Mr. Tancredo also has a spine, unlike most of the current crop of Pubbies in Congress.
I advise you save your money. Consider the aformentioned posters as comic relief only who pop up like clockwork on immigration threads to say something hysterically nonsensical, kinda like FR's version of Crazy Guggenhiem, Raymond J Johnson Jr or Kramer.
Their utter predictability is what makes them hilarious. Boo - its Bay Buchanan! OMG Tancredo stabbed Tom Delay in the back! You couldn't write funnier stuff.
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You should know that I'm on the good guy's side at all times. Conservative, historically respectful, Constitutional on it's facial/initial meanings. Turbulent interpretations of the Constitution driven by socialist judges during the past seventy years need to be thrown out on that basis alone. The 14th Amendment was for insuring that former slaves were assured the right to vote, NOT the interpretation that children of illegals were automatic citizens. Those children are sovereign to the countries their parents came from - we need a major lawsuit brought up to define that.
Those illegals who've served valiantly in our military should be honored and recognized for their service, yet should not be a conduit for seemingly endless family members trying to slide in. Ted Kennedy has done far more than enough damage with his "Immigration Lottery" which has enabled legions of near-savages from traditionally America-hating countries to come here on a free pass while thousands of talented and educated people from developed countries wishing to come here are denied.
Can we agree that the Immigration Lottery and it's backward policies should be overturned for the far more sensible policy of allowing the best and the brightest to take root here?
Just like taking the black out of the ghetto, you take the hispanic out of the barrio and he stops voting 2/6s Democrat.
Bush got half their vote last time. Progress can be made.
Thank you very much for the sagacious advice. I know fully well that it would be throwing good money away for nothing. I'm just sick of this person's constant Tokya Rose noise and want to have a showdown. If she's smarter or is more knowledgable than me so be it...but I feel certain that this individual is a tool for the Open Borders Lobby and doesn't have a real leg to stand on. If that's the case she needs to be outed for what she is. I am who I am all day long every day.
If all the 'true' conservatives left the Republican party and started their own party, what would be the outcome of elections in the United Kingdom?
Well, the Conservative party and the moderate Republicans would probably form a coalition government because they got a combined 55% of the vote. Hooray!
Ok, now what if the same thing happened in the United STates?
Very different outcome - in fact, we saw the outcome in 1992. A minority Liberal with 42-3% of the vote would win.
A smarter move is to form a coalition/caucus WITHIN one of the two parties, then get your guy through the primary. Lets try another scenario.
If the goal is to elect a true libertarian Constitutionalist conservative, what scenario do you think would be most useful to him:
a) All the conservatives in the country are organized into a caucus within the Republican Party where they make 40% of the party and can get another 11% by arm twisting, reaching out, etc.
b) Half the conservatives left to start their own party and have abandoned the R party to the moderates who won't give him a nomination. He goes into the general primary ala Perot or Buchanan and, again, nearly tips the election to John Kerry.
See, this isn't about ideology or comprimosing principles or about personalities or people. It's about whether or not you are a G D retard and can't do match.
On a completely different note, I strongly suspect that reason doesn't really count for much with the true third party types who read everything I wrote as 'RINO talk'. As these types normally exhibit poor personal hygiene, don't contribute financially or otherwise, and spend most of their days talking on HAM radio and posting on FR, saved the trouble of getting up from their chairs throughout the day by using empty milk jugs, I don't think they really account for much.
The overwhelming majority of us real conservatives 'get it'.
You just did the same thing. What does that make you?
Clinton and Bush got elected with a lot more "baggage" than Tancredo has.
I guess the nurse must be a little late with the meds. Hang in there, dude, I'm sure she'll be around to your room soon.
Well, we still have a military and we don't have a national healthcare system.
Oh, and we aren't part of the Kyoto Protocols.
Oh, and there's the Cheif Justice of the Supreme Court.
Oh, and don't forget the tax cuts.
Oops, and the partial birth abortion ban.
...maybe they are getting some things done, even if they do let the hippies punch way to far above their weight class.
It does, but we need to work smarter, not harder. :)
Very good.
Perot had a deal precut to handle all the database info for Hitleries Health Care, ah la E-Systems. He never intended to win anything. His numbers went up, he droped out. His numbers went too far down, he's back in. Just enough to spoil the vote.
This is not the case with the constitution Party.
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