If all the 'true' conservatives left the Republican party and started their own party, what would be the outcome of elections in the United Kingdom?
Well, the Conservative party and the moderate Republicans would probably form a coalition government because they got a combined 55% of the vote. Hooray!
Ok, now what if the same thing happened in the United STates?
Very different outcome - in fact, we saw the outcome in 1992. A minority Liberal with 42-3% of the vote would win.
A smarter move is to form a coalition/caucus WITHIN one of the two parties, then get your guy through the primary. Lets try another scenario.
If the goal is to elect a true libertarian Constitutionalist conservative, what scenario do you think would be most useful to him:
a) All the conservatives in the country are organized into a caucus within the Republican Party where they make 40% of the party and can get another 11% by arm twisting, reaching out, etc.
b) Half the conservatives left to start their own party and have abandoned the R party to the moderates who won't give him a nomination. He goes into the general primary ala Perot or Buchanan and, again, nearly tips the election to John Kerry.
See, this isn't about ideology or comprimosing principles or about personalities or people. It's about whether or not you are a G D retard and can't do match.
On a completely different note, I strongly suspect that reason doesn't really count for much with the true third party types who read everything I wrote as 'RINO talk'. As these types normally exhibit poor personal hygiene, don't contribute financially or otherwise, and spend most of their days talking on HAM radio and posting on FR, saved the trouble of getting up from their chairs throughout the day by using empty milk jugs, I don't think they really account for much.
The overwhelming majority of us real conservatives 'get it'.
I guess the nurse must be a little late with the meds. Hang in there, dude, I'm sure she'll be around to your room soon.
"See, this isn't about ideology or comprimosing principles or about personalities or people. It's about whether or not you are a G D retard and can't do match."
That kind of talk will sure bring a lot of conservatives over to your side. Insult the conservatives and then expect them to vote RINO, I don't think so.
This is exactly what Tancredo is doing. By voting for him in the primaries we are giving validity to his cause and forcing the other candidates to heed his message.
Of course the RINO's will tell us that by voting for someone other than the consensus frontrunner we would be undermining the eventual candidate and putting him/her in a bad place relative to the Demos candidate.
So, for example, if Condi were to run in 2008 and she made no suggestions that she would crack down on illegal immigration, it would be right (both ideologically and pragmatically) to vote for Tancredo.
However, the RINO's would say that it would only make us out to be racists and sexists and would undermine Condi when she goes up against Hitlery.
This is all BS though because it is finally official that our votes do not count. If the margin of victory is large, than any one vote is immaterial. However, when the margin of victory is small our votes are overwhelmed by waste, fraud, and abuse ... made even easier by motor voter, absentee voting, early voting, and computer voting.
If we vote against illegal immigration then we are supposedly going to be labeled racist and lose the Hispanic vote. If we vote in favor of illegal immigration ... oops I meant to say a guest worker program ... then we will be overwhelmed by the illegal Hispanic vote.
And if it is too damn easy to become a US citizen, then the value of US citizenship is debased. And if it means less and less to be a US citizen then our votes our debased, our livelihoods are debased, and the whole enchilada is debased.
LOL!