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Desperate for Defeat (The Democrats' greatest fear is an America that's winning.)
The American Prowler ^ | 11/22/2005 | George Neumayr

Posted on 11/21/2005 9:51:21 PM PST by nickcarraway

The foreign policy of the Democratic Party verges on deliberate defeatism: afraid of American "dominance" in the world, many Democrats would prefer that America tie wars than win them. Because they would like to see America put in its place -- this isn't an overstatement; just listen to the Democrats' constant complaints about America's lone "superpower" status -- their contribution to the war effort is defined by deep ambivalence. They don't necessarily want their country to lose, but they are not so sure if they want it to win either. They often define this ambivalence as "patriotism": we're henpecking and sapping American military morale for the country's own good, they'll say, lest it become too "arrogant."

As they did during the Cold War, the Democrats see their role in the war on terrorism as that of harsh, inflexible monitors of their own country. "Patriotism" thus translates into endless temporizing, moral equivalence, and a campaign to place suicidal limitations on their country's military leadership. All of this is accompanied by a gross lack of proportion and perspective and a dilettantish indifference to the consequences of a lost war.

Democrats will tell the military to fight with one arm tied behind its back from the comfortable spot of standing behind it. From this safe vantage point, they can offer up such fine sentiments as: although a "democracy must often fight with one hand tied behind its back, it nonetheless has the upper hand." (Al Gore, quoting someone else, used that line in a speech.) Democrats love this high-minded and windy talk, especially since someone else is doing the difficult work of preventing terrorists from cutting off their hands.

It is striking how black-and-white, how totally lacking in empathy, Democrats become when their own country's military soldiers, who are operating under very tricky circumstances, are under discussion. The Democrats' weakness for "situation ethics" suddenly disappears and they become know-it-alls on the moral particulars of military life. Certain acts are intrinsically wrong, they thunder, even as they argue in every other context that no such acts exist.

The Democrats warm to this discussion of human rights in direct proportion to the evil of the human being whose rights are under examination: a party that has never seen abortion as a human rights abuse is worried that terrorists are standing for too long and aren't sleeping in properly conditioned rooms.

CIA director Porter Goss recently made a sensible distinction between tough interrogation and torture, a distinction which the Democrats dismiss with easy indignation and false piety (this is a party that considers the death penalty for mass murderers to be "cruel and unusual punishment"; there is no reason to trust its definition of "torture" ), but a distinction which is essential to military victory.

"An enemy that's working in an amorphous network that doesn't have to worry about a bunch of regulations, chain of command, rule of law or anything else has got a huge advantage over a stultified, slow-moving, bureaucratic, by-the-book" army, Goss has said. "So we have to, within the law and within all the requirements of our professional ethics in this profession, develop agility. And that means putting a lot of judgment in the hands of individuals overseas."

When Democrats reject such distinctions and say the CIA interrogations are making America "like the terrorists," they simply reveal their ignorance of America's enemy. The Democrats' soft definition of torture would make Al Qaeda agents laugh.

The Democrats' tendency to hype with great melodrama the evil of their country while remaining clueless about the monstrosities of the enemy is connected to their agnostic foreign policy: Were they to see the enemy too clearly, they would have to support a more dominant role for America than they wish. Wanting to put America in its place on the international stage, with "parity" but not advantage over others, they have to portray threats to America very benignly. This explains how the Democrats could stumble into the absurd position of saying that Iraq under Saddam Hussein was terrorist-free and that he just wasn't the sort of person to associate with Muslim terrorists. This whitewash of pre-war Iraq has become essential to the Democrats' assertion that America could have won the war on terrorism while ignoring one of its loci -- an assertion no more persuasive than the Democrats' claim that Marxist expansionism in Central America had nothing to do with the Soviet threat.

Given the nonstop talk about what the Bush administration didn't find in Iraq, it is high time Bush officials remind people of what they did find there: a chaotically administered, out-of-control weapons program that was easily accessible to terrorists. As inspector David Kay reported, Iraqi scientists up until the beginning of the war were "actively working to produce a biological weapon using the poison ricin"; "We know that terrorists were passing through Iraq. And now we know that there was little control over Iraq's weapons capabilities....The country had the technology, the ability to produce, and there were terrorist groups passing through the country -- and no central control." Iraq under Saddam Hussein was arguably more dangerous than even Bush had assumed, Kay said: "I actually think what we learned during the inspection made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than, in fact, we thought it was before the war."

The Democrats, ignoring this, and working themselves into a fever over Iraq's perilous condition even as they simultaneously argue no such dangerous condition existed under Saddam Hussein, are rooting at best for an American tie in this front of the war on terrorism. But a tie against terrorists is a defeat, a defeat which only a twisted Democratic foreign policy that fears too much American success could pass off as a victory.


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To: nickcarraway
Put quite simply, the Democrats are psychologically and politically invested in an American defeat. It would be politically suicidal for them to openly advocate they want this to happen but this is the effect of their denunciation of American policy in the Middle East. They don't care if we lose as long as they get back into power. The Democrats' world view may be loony and morally repugnant but as strategery it has much to commend it, playing as it does on Americans' ignorance of things (abetted by the MSM) abroad and a natural desire to stop being the world's policeman. In an earlier age, such a position would not have been a matter of life and death for America. With 9/11 all that changed - and isolationism pace is no longer a tenable position since we no longer have two big oceans to serve as moats to keep us safe from distant quarrels. Thanks to air travel, they can arrive almost instantly and inflict the greatest lethality imaginable upon a free society. The Democrats do not understand the old ways of doing things will never work again - even as their demagoguery endangers Americans' safety abroad and at home in this century.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

21 posted on 11/21/2005 11:18:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion
From their actions it's clear that Dems DO WANT THE US TO LOSE, and lose badly.

I have to agree with you, but I find it interesting to ask "Why?"

I assume that if a 'Rat president would have had the cajones to lead the country to arms in response to the war on terror (a hypothetical assumption, I admit), the majority of 'Rats would be pulling for him and our country. In fact, I have no doubt that the 'Icans would have rallied around him. But because we have an 'Ican president (doesn't matter that it's Bush), the 'Rats at first wanted to ensure that the country wouldn't rally around him, and now they want him--and us--to lose. I think this behavior is easy for them, as it plays to their inherent anti-American values.

22 posted on 11/21/2005 11:30:01 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Dream Ticket: Cheney/Rice '08)
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To: jan in Colorado
You are a fine editor - good job!
23 posted on 11/21/2005 11:33:46 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: Justanobody

LOL!


24 posted on 11/21/2005 11:34:43 PM PST by jan in Colorado (The ENEMEDIA will do all it can to spread a lie and conceal the Truth!)
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To: Cobra64; jan in Colorado
He mumbles and stutters constantly.

Hmmmmm, I have never noticed that the President stutters.....or mumbles. I must have missed those speeches.

25 posted on 11/21/2005 11:35:22 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: nickcarraway

DIMocRATS are nothing more than a collection of sell-outs and gutless traitors.


26 posted on 11/21/2005 11:55:27 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Justanobody

He is underestimated, that's for sure!


27 posted on 11/21/2005 11:57:37 PM PST by jan in Colorado (The ENEMEDIA will do all it can to spread a lie and conceal the Truth!)
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To: Cobra64
President Bush is a TERRIBLE communicator.

If your every public utterance was covered by the media, you might come off that way too.

The MSM loves showing his slip-ups. In this way, they have created a picture of GWB as a bumbler, which is believed by the gullible

I have heard him give some world-class speeches, and seen him communicate very, very well off-the-cuff.

I don't buy the MSM hype. That's for the sheeple.

28 posted on 11/22/2005 12:53:11 AM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: nickcarraway
The democrats actions may have allowed Iran and North Korea to continue their proxy war against America, thanks to in kind to both China and France, and obtain nuclear weapons to be used against the USofA. And, one must ask if these enemies of American would choose to destroy Corn Field County (Bush Country) or hit a sizeable city (Democrat Country)? Not so common common sense already answers this question if one is logical in the realities of warfare. If and when the first cities glow from the temperate fires of the Democratic Party's own hand by proxy, those who would enable this cobbled together party of Liberals (abortionists, gays, Jesse Jackson hate moungers, anti-Christians and socialists), and those who hate American will have declined in numbers and in their obsessive desire to hobble America at home and abroad.... The following elections will not empower the Democrates to continue their policy of obstructionism.

If Chicago was bombed, would Illiois vote Republican?

If LA, San Diego, San Fran & Seattle were hit by nukes, would Kalifornia and Washington vote Republican?

If NYC or Boston were hit by nukes, would NY State and Mass still vote Democrat.

The Corn Field dwellers are safe for now but one must wonder?

29 posted on 11/22/2005 1:52:10 AM PST by Jumper
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To: nickcarraway

bookmark


30 posted on 11/22/2005 2:12:38 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: nickcarraway

What is amazing is that the war critics will simultaneously cite Kay's and Duelfer's failures to find stockpiles of wmds as proof that the war was unnecessary and at the same time ignore or dismiss Kay's and Duelfer's findings of Hussein's labs and wmd preparations. And they will still claim that Hussein never had wmds even though the evidence there, the dead Kurdish children for example, is overwhelming.


31 posted on 11/22/2005 2:50:23 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: nickcarraway

The democrats are AINOs (Americans in name only).


32 posted on 11/22/2005 3:02:08 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: JennysCool
W does well when Karen Hughes and Rove are in town to write his speeches.

W's remarks from an exportoranious situation is when W seems confused; and cannot express himself. Tony Blaire is a far better speaker than W.

33 posted on 11/22/2005 3:04:31 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: goldstategop
Put quite simply, the Democrats are psychologically and politically invested in an American defeat...

Well, sort of...but not completely accurate. What they really want is Bush's defeat, but if that means America's defeat, it's okay with them. Democrats have been slapped in the face, hard, twice: in 2000 and 2004. They want revenge and they're prepared to sacrifice America to get it.

At least that's the way I see it.

34 posted on 11/22/2005 3:31:18 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Jumper
***If Chicago was bombed, would Illinois vote Republican?***

Yes. That is, after we stopped cheering.




Okay, seriously - IL already votes Republican. Take a look at 'the map'. Only a few stinking Blue counties gave it to Kerry and Gore before that. And until the fiasco of criminal ex gov George Ryan (RINO ) the state has historically been under Republican leadership.

35 posted on 11/22/2005 5:01:39 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: nickcarraway

America is the Democrats' (excepting the likes of Sen. Lieberman) only worldly enemy, but they have another One in Heaven.


36 posted on 11/22/2005 5:54:53 AM PST by RoadTest (I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus - - - Rev. 20:4)
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To: theOffice

bump


37 posted on 11/22/2005 6:38:04 AM PST by timestax
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To: pocat

bttt


38 posted on 11/22/2005 10:55:55 AM PST by timestax
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To: nickcarraway

One conclusion he missed is that while America must fight with "one hand tied behind it's back", the dems will fight dirty and use every trick in the book and that is OK with them.


39 posted on 11/22/2005 4:41:25 PM PST by tioga
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To: nickcarraway

When your entire world view is defined by the glorification of helpless victimhood, you can not rationalize it when your country is the only superpower.


40 posted on 11/22/2005 4:48:21 PM PST by pollyannaish
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