When you read a statement like this you know the speaker knows right from wrong and is acknowledging being in the wrong.
I wish the gooberment would open an eco-terrorist season.
I promise one and all that I'd be glad to "bag the limit".
Every time animal rights terrorists come to mind, I envision a bunch of skinny punks looking for any cause to take up arms in, who like the idea of being a fighter but would never in their lives join the military. And they'd back down from a fight by themselves, but as a group they'd muster the courage to terrorize women, children, and old men.
Having just finished a dinner of moose steak and bear meat (prepared as spcy meatballs!), let's move beyond the obvious leftist terror aspects of the animal activists. They're also completely out of touch with the real world where animals live. In the real world of eastern North America, white-tailed deer are literally browsing the forests into places devoid of underbrush and saplings, since there are no predators and no human hunting. In essence, the animal rights people are willing to sacrifice the environment for political purposes. As far as bears are concerned, no doubt those animals are attracted by the venison feast - and they'll just as easily forage in garbage cans, eat dogs and cats, and maul the nearest kid. We live with bears; they're not cuddly and cute; they can hurt and kill people, and do so, especially in places without hunting where they've lost their fear of humans. What makes sense is seeing all those deer and bear - and I'd throw in all those Canada geese and turkeys, too - as God's supermarket and, with intelligent supervision, it would be a sustainable food resource. Of course, that makes sense, and I don't terrorize my neighbors with my political viewpoint.
Unf---ing believable. And this jackass has a license to practice medicine? People can't cave in to these spineless thugs. Maybe they need a dose of their own medicine.
"And if they won't stop when you ask them nicely, they won't stop when you demonstrate to them what they're doing is wrong, then they should be stopped using whatever means necessary.”"
So it's not OK to harm animals but it's OK to harm people? What am I missing here? Brain damage? Insanity? Too much LSD?
I have to disagee about safety being a state of mind. From what I read in the article, they ARE a threat to our safety; especially when they make comments about doing what is necessary to make their point. If they don't have any qualms about breaking the law and vandalizing someone's property just because they disagree with him, they're not going to stop at bodily harm. Yes, they are a threat to our freedom but they are also a threat to us physically.
Disagree. It's only a matter of time before ELF or ALF kills someone. It probably won't be intentional, but someone will die as a result of their actions. Mark my words.
This isn't anything. The animal activists in britain went so far as to dig up the bones of the mother of a man who raised guinea pigs for medical research.
They held the bones for ransom.
The area is on a sort of peninsula that juts out into Long Island Sound.
There would be limited space for deer to move about and I can believe that they are making a pretty big mess there due to overpopulation.
The eco-freaks have no idea what they are doing other than raising hell in a densely populated suburban area.
Will hunters be followed after the hunt is over?
Will the hunters be followed during the hunt? That would be fun!
When you read a statement like this you know the speaker knows right from wrong and is acknowledging being in the wrong.
"What did Leland Hairr do to deserve this? He asked for, and received permission from the state of New York, to hold a deer cull in his village."
Well, here's the problem. The village has to ask the State of New York. You see the problem here don't you? Our freedoms have been so eroded by the left, that now permission is required to kill deer? It's a sad commentary.
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>>>Groups like WAR and ALF are allowed to operate without widespread condemnation. At the time of this writing, I have been unable to find any statement from the New York Parks Department, the Diocese of Rockville Centre, or the town of Lloyd’s Harbor expressing any sort of outrage for the attack on the town’s mayor.
I thought ALF was labeled a Domestic Terrorist group?
Domestic Terrorist Groups:
Animal Liberation Front (ALF)--Animal Rights group.
Armed Revolutionary Independence Movement (MIRA)--Puerto Rican terrorist group which sought independence from the U.S. Broken up by the police in the 1960s.
Boricua Popular Army (AKA Ejército Popular Boricua & Los Macheteros)--Puerto Rican terrorist group seeking Puerto Rican independence from the United States. First known as the Armed Forces of National Liberation (FALN)
Earth Liberation Front (ELF)--Environmentalist group held responsible for acts of eco-terrorism throughout the United States.
Minutemen --Right-wing terrorist group in the 1960s. (NOTE: not to be confused with the Minutemen volunteer border patrol begun in 2005.)
Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA)- Left-wing group best known for kidnapping newspaper heiress Patricia Hearst.
Weather Underground--Left-wing group active in the 1960s.
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The following is a speech that was pre-recorded by Dr Jerry Vlasak, who was barred from entering the UK by the Home Secretary David Blunkett and shown at the recent ARGathering 2004.
Greetings from America! I wish that Pamelyn and I could be with you at this terrific conference to discuss the total liberation of animals, but we are with you and the animals in spirit.
I would like to start off with a quote from Dr. Andrew Lindsey, which he delivered at a past animal rights conference; “WE HAVE SEEN AND WE KNOW! I think we can all relate to those prophetic words, because we too have SEEN and we KNOW.
For at the heart of this movement, is a simple but profound change of perception; animals are not machines, animals are not things, animals are not tools, animals are not commodities, they are not resources for us! Animals are living, sentient beings, with their own dignity, their own worth and yes their own RIGHTS! We protest against the blindness and spiritual impoverishment of those who cannot see that there are individuals of worth beyond the barrier of our own species.”
Our movement cannot be isolated in a vacuum. The animal rights movement has got to be viewed in a historical context. Our movement is no less important or radical than the fight against Apartheid or the fight against human slavery, fights against oppression in Algeria, Vietnam, Northern Ireland and other places all around the world.
We, like those freedom fighters who came before us are on the front lines, trying to educate a largely greedy, corrupt and violent society and to expose the needless suffering and agony which goes on daily inside abattoirs, laboratories and zoos; billions of animals suffer and die world wide.
On a daily basis, animals are drowned, suffocated and starved to death; they have their limbs severed and their organs crushed; they are burned, exposed to radiation and used in experimental surgeries; they are shocked, raised in isolation, exposed to weapons of mass destruction and rendered blind or paralyzed; they are given heart attacks, ulcers, paralysis, and seizures; they are forced to inhale tobacco smoke, drink alcohol, and ingest various drugs like heroine and cocaine.
Yes, we have seen and we know.
Those who perpetrate these still “legal” crimes, their utter and complete violence, callousness and indifference against non human animals, can’t and don’t want to see that what they are doing is not only a crime against God, Allah, Buddha, nature and life itself, but results in the suffering and death of millions of humans.
The University’s and the pharmaceutical industry’s “addiction” to archaic and outmoded animal research results in millions of humans getting sicker, fatter and dying of completely preventable diseases. With all the millions of dollars wasted and I repeat wasted, on the scientific fraud of vivisection, the only result is that over the past half century Cancer Deaths are UP, Strokes are Up, Heart Disease UP, Diabetes UP, Obesity Way UP.
I became a surgeon, a doctor, in order to save lives. I spent many years in preparation of my being able to work as a doctor; 4 years of university, 4 years of medical school, a year of internship and then five additional years of surgical residency. I, like the rest of my fellow students, was naive and impressionable. We had been brought up and brainwashed by the meat and dairy industries to think that flesh and cows milk made you strong and was good for you; and we had been brought up and brainwashed to believe that animal experimentation was a “necessary evil” and had to be done in order to save the lives of our patients.
Like the billion dollar meat and dairy industry spin machine, the university system and pharmaceutical industry has done a very good job at taking young impressionable students and “addicting” them to outmoded and unscientific animal research. Why do they do this? They do this because of profit, greed and power. Unfortunately corruption, lies and deceit by government and by corporations is common, and even those so called humanitarians who are supposed to care about human health are corruptible. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And so it goes even within the University of Oxford system, the sheds at Newchurch and in the labs at HLS.
I’d like to tell you two short stories. The first is about a five year old girl who came into the emergency room with appendicitis. The little girl was so obese that her breasts were as large as a girl in her teens, and she weighed twice as much as a normal child her age. She needed an emergency appendectomy and the surgery I preformed was made much more difficult by her obesity. When patients are obese, their fat layers complicate not only the actual surgery being performed, but the complication rate after surgery drastically increases. The little girl already had type II diabetes which is now common in American children. Type II diabetes is completely preventable and has historically been seen in adults who are obese themselves. But because of the meat, dairy and sugar industries, we have a new generation of children who are sick, fat and miserable. The little girl made it through surgery and when she was recovering I sat down with her and her parents and spoke to them about a low fat vegetarian diet and drinking soya milk instead of “cows” milk, which as you know is linked to all kinds of illnesses. I told her that a low fat vegetarian diet is proven to prevent the most common diseases that millions of people die from every single year; diseases such as heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes and hardening of the arteries. The mother began to cry and said that her little girl was teased by the other kids and couldn’t even play like a normal child because of her weight; that she was always coming down with ailments and that she was lethargic and fell asleep in school. Then the mother looked at me with tears in her eyes and asked “Why hasn’t any other doctor given us this information? “ This scenario is common in my practice, and is the direct result of the absolute power, greed and corruption of the meat and dairy industry.
The next story is about my introduction into the world of vivisection, while I was a surgical resident. I was told that I could make a name for myself if I published papers and experimented on animals; and I was told that universities were given LOTS of money by the government as long as they continued to do experiments on animals. Being the naïve young doctor and wanting to follow the lead of others, I did a year of vivisection and visited animal labs throughout the country. What I learned and what I saw with my own eyes was mind-boggling. I learned that 85% of all the data gathered from animal experiments was literally thrown away because it was of no use to anyone, human or non-human; never even published, much less used to help people. Almost all of the remainder of this data was never found useful for human healthcare. Oh and that 1 or 2% of data that was possibly, one day, maybe going to be useful in helping people? That data could have been obtained more accurately and cheaper using modern, progressive non-animal methods.
Then I learned that the pharmaceutical companies spent millions of dollars taking doctors out to dinner and paying for lavish vacations for them and their families, and in turn these “researchers” were to manipulate animal experiments to get the results that the drug industries wanted. Then I learned that the way universities get grant money isn’t by coming up with the best and most scientific research methods, but by continuing to use animals as a model because of the billions of dollars made in the vivisection industry. I learned that the vivisection industry is like the mafia; the scientists and drug companies who engage in animal research will do whatever it takes to continue the practice even though it not only harms humans, but causes enormous agony and suffering to the animals being experimented on.
Greed, corruption and absolute power; these are the things that drive the vivisection industry; NOT saving lives or preventing disease. In a world that has discovered gene expression and can look at diseases on the cellular and molecular level, animal experimentation has no and I repeat NO PLACE in 21st Century science. We now know that based on molecular biology and gene expression, a drug that reacts a certain way in a male rat, may react completely differently in a female rat. But what about primates that share 99% of our DNA? It’s not the 99% that’s important, but the 1% that makes the difference in a non-human primate reacting totally differently to a medicine or surgical procedure then a human primate. We are not going to save the lives of our fellow humans by using archaic, outmoded animal experimentation.
The scientists who still use animals in their research are not only frauds, but are addicted to an outdated form of research. That Colin Blakemore for instance, who has sewn kittens eyes closed for fun and profit, is no more of a true scientist then the mad scientists in the monster movies we watched in the 50’s. Blakemore is not a doctor. Like most animal experimenters, he is simply a “wanna be” medical doctor who didn’t have the social skills nor the brains to make it through medical school. And those medical doctors who are performing experiments on animals are simply the instruments of a corrupt university system and the pharmaceutical industry.
But what can we do about the fact that the UK is following the lead of Americans, with drug companies buying off government officials? Does the UK want to end up like America where there are two pharmaceutical lobbyists to every one member of government? No wonder prescription drugs are now being advertised on American TV like sugar-coated cereals for kids. Because of certain government officials here in the UK, your country is lapping up the worst that America has to offer. So again, what can we do about it? For one thing we must keep fighting this noble and most important of causes. We must be relentless, tenacious and creative. We can’t out-money or out-spend the universities or drug companies, but we can outsmart them. Be brave, be courageous, be creative and struggle, struggle, struggle. We WILL win this battle if we continue being as clever and as dedicated as you have been in the past half-century. Follow what other movements for great change have done. Learn the history of other movements like the fight against slavery and Apartheid. Learn from what they did and study how they did it. You who are out there fighting and doing everything possible for animal liberation are the Nelson Mandela’s of tomorrow.
Feeling the suffering of animals is no aberration, no abnormality and no extremism. That you can feel it at all, and that you are willing to do everything you can to stop that suffering, is a sign of grace.
The most terrible thing of all, the most demonic, the most evil thing of all is what is so loudly proclaimed and seen in all those appalling undercover tapes from inside animal labs and slaughterhouses.
The animal rights movement is making strides unlike any other movement of our time. Where is the legislation aimed at limiting the efforts of environmental campaigners? Who is getting major press coverage? Not the anti-war movement. Not the anti-globalization movement.
The struggle for animal liberation is like no other, and because of our successes, we are beginning to incur the increasing wrath of the abusers and their lackeys in government. Their profits are threatened and so they lash out and try to dispossess our movement. But we are going to win and somewhere deep within, they know that. We are stronger than they, because we have to be. The animals are counting on us. The abusers know we have right and justice on our side and that we will never back down until they stop the torture and killing.
In closing, I’d like you to ponder this thought when you get back home after the conference has ended and you are safe and sound in your homes and have a stomach full of tofu and rice; “If it were my mother, my child, my sister or brother inside an HLS lab or the primate labs at Oxford, what would I do to save them?
We do what we do because . . . .WE HAVE SEEN AND WE KNOW!
Thank you for listening. Good afternoon and keep fighting, for we have right on our side.
Animal Liberation Press Offices
Steve Best
Steve Best regularly speaks at animal rights conferences; at a Fresno State University conference in February 2003 on "Revolutionary Environmentalism: A Dialogue Between Activists and Academics," Best said, "Throughout history, property destruction and civil protest has been part of our heritage. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with the Boston Tea Party."
Best writes many articles in defense of militant animal rights activism. In his article, "Thinking Pluralistically: A Case for Direct Action," Best said that "a new civil war is unfolding – one between forces hell-bent on exploiting animals and the earth for profit whatever the toll, and activists steeled to resist this omnicide tooth and nail."
A philosophy professor at the University of Texas at El Paso, Best hosts the radio show Animal Concerns of Texas, and is the co-editor of the recently published book: "Terrorists or Freedom Fighters? Reflections on the Liberation of Animals."
Jerry Vlasak
Jerry Vlasak is a member of the Animal Defense League, a radical animal rights group that carries out various direct actions, including home demonstrations. In July 2004, the forty-six-year-old heart surgeon from Los Angeles was banned from entering Britain to attend a conference held by SHAC-UK and SPEAK, an anti-vivisection group, for remarks he made to an audience at an animal rights conference in Los Angles in 2003. Vlasak told the earlier gathering that the assassination of scientists working in biomedical research would save millions of animals' lives and that "I think violence is part of the struggle against oppression. If something bad happens to these people [animal researchers], it will discourage others. It is inevitable that violence will be used in the struggle and that it will be effective."
Vlasak also said, "I don't think you'd have to kill too many. I think for five lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human lives." (Although he was not allowed to attend the British conference, Vlasak addressed the gathering via video link.)
Vlasak has been arrested in connection with animal rights demonstrations on several occasions during the past few years. In one instance, Vlasak was arrested in March 2001 during a protest at a Las Vegas conference held by Huntingdon Life Sciences creditor Stephens Inc. Vlasak filed a federal lawsuit claiming that Las Vegas police and security guards violated he and his wife's civil rights by assaulting, arresting and illegally searching them.
Camille Hankins
Camille Hankins, a veteran animal rights activist who lives in New York, has organized protests outside of Huntingdon Life Sciences' Chairman Andrew Baker's New York apartment. She has been arrested twice for violating injunctions limiting the demonstrations.
Hankins reportedly discovered the SHAC campaign at an animal rights conference about four years ago. "Here I saw a group of people who had focused in on one target," she said. "It was the moment that I knew that this was the way to do it, this was the way to effectively accomplish our goals."
Angie Metler
Angie Metler is a member of the New Jersey Animal Rights Association and the Bear Education And Resource Group. In August 2004, she was arrested in Vernon, New Jersey, for locking herself inside a bear trap. "I did the only thing I could do. I followed my conscience," said Metler.
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An appeals court has refused to halt New Jersey's next bear hunt. A lawyer for two animal rights groups argued that state officials fell short in educating residents about how to prevent contact with bears. A lawyer for the state argued the six-day hunt would not damage the bear population and said it is the only way to trim their numbers and cut nuisance complaints. Stay with News 12 New Jersey and News12.com for more on this story.
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