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Prosecutors Say Pa. Girl Wasn't Kidnapped
Associated Press ^ | Monday, November 21, 2005 | MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:43 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow

LANCASTER, Pa. - A 14-year-old girl whose 18-year-old boyfriend allegedly fatally shot her parents left willingly with him after the slayings and was not kidnapped, prosecutors said in court papers filed Monday.

Kara Borden told detectives she left of her own free will, according to the filing. David Ludwig told detectives the two planned to get married and start a new life together.

Ludwig confessed to the slayings after his arrest and told police where to find the murder weapon in his car, according to court documents released Monday in Indiana.

In court documents filed in Pennsylvania, prosecutors said Kara Borden ran from her home to get into Ludwig's car after the Nov. 13 shootings.

"(Kara) told the defendant that she wanted to stay with him, and they drove west with the intent to 'get as far away as possible, get married, and start a new life,'" Ludwig told detectives, according to the court papers.

District Attorney Donald Totaro said Monday the kidnapping charge against Ludwig, of Lititz, will be dropped at his preliminary hearing next month.

Earlier Monday, Indiana authorities released a search warrant affidavit for the car the couple drove nearly 600 miles from the murder scene in central Pennsylvania to Indiana.

Ludwig told Indiana State Police that a Glock semiautomatic pistol he used to kill Michael and Cathryn Borden was under the driver's front seat of his parents' car, according to the affidavit.

Police seized a .40-caliber Glock pistol, a .223-caliber rifle and several articles of black clothing under a search warrant executed Wednesday. Under a separate search warrant executed Friday, police said they found a .45-caliber Colt pistol, a screwdriver, several maps and two Indiana license plates.

Ludwig told police that there were several guns in the car.

"He certainly did make a statement and cooperated with police," said Hendricks County (Ind.) prosecutor Patricia A. Baldwin. "They basically let him talk is what they did."

Police have said the murder weapon was a .40-caliber handgun.

Ludwig is being held without bail, awaiting a Dec. 16 preliminary hearing on charges that he shot the Bordens in their home in Lititz on Nov. 13. Police allege the shootings occurred after an argument over Ludwig's relationship with Kara Borden.

Police caught up to Ludwig and Borden Nov. 14 after a chase that ended with him crashing the car into a tree in Belleville, Ind.

James Gratton, a public defender representing Ludwig, said he was aware that his client had given a statement to Indiana authorities, but did not know specifically what he told them.

Neither Ludwig nor the girl, who has not been charged, was injured in the crash.

Investigators said previously they were treating Kara Borden as a crime victim but that the investigation was continuing.

In a court filing Friday, Ludwig's attorneys said they wanted investigators to preserve evidence in Ludwig's wallet, such as receipts from their journey, so that surveillance video could be obtained. The video would show that he didn't kidnap the girl, the attorneys said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: davidludwig; karabethborden; karaborden; kidnapping; ludwig; pennsylvania
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To: Peace4EarthNow

Just looking at the pics of these two on TV, I'd say she was a little Lolita and he was a hapless dupe. She probably put him up to it because her parents were so mean and wouldn't let her stay out at night. Had he had the maturity of a typical 18 year old, he would have sensed something was wrong with trying to date a 14 year old, no matter how 'hot' she was. I say she gets indited as a co-conspirator any day now.


121 posted on 11/22/2005 6:15:18 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
When I posted that she may have been afraid not to go with him I hadn't read that she ran after him. But her undeveloped 14-year-old judgement will probably get her freedom once she reaches adulthood unless she was involved in the killings. It appears the killings may have been a contingency plan by the 18-yesr-old; i.e, "If I don't get the right answer (to date your daughter) I off both of you."
122 posted on 11/22/2005 6:15:22 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: laney
Understand though she is 14, what does she really understand about Love, Death? Pain?

Romeo and Juliet knew something about that stuff, and they were fourteen.

Of course, they were fictional, as well. :)

123 posted on 11/22/2005 6:18:22 AM PST by Terabitten (Illegal immigration causes Representation without Taxation.)
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To: bk1000

Why is it we can rally around the abortionists and say how wrong it is, how much a child has the right to life but just 14 years after the birth we can totally disregard that child by the wayside?


124 posted on 11/22/2005 6:48:35 AM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: DTogo

:nodding in agreement: Somewhere there's a prison cell inhabited by a hairy, 300-pound creature named Tiny who's very much looking forward to meeting young Ludwig...


125 posted on 11/22/2005 7:07:56 AM PST by Clioman
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To: cherry
It's very surprising to see that this girl came from a home with concerned and loving parents. She was home-schooled, attended church... And not that these things are assured prevention, but how was it that this girl and 18 year old were able to spend time together?

I just can't buy that this 18 year old didn't think. He had time to think about his reaction...on the drive to her house. Was there nothing in this punk's head from 18 years on this planet to give him some pause in the car? It's just awful.

I'd like to hear more about his household, and how it was that he was able to store bomb-making materials and other paraphernalia in his home.
126 posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:23 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: laney
"Why is it we can rally around the abortionists and say how wrong it is, how much a child has the right to life but just 14 years after the birth we can totally disregard that child by the wayside?"

You're joking, right? In case you're not--

HOW can you say she was being "disregarded" when her parents had done everything within their power to bring her up correctly (and died trying to keep her from the wrong kind of guy)? By all accounts, the girl was given everything a child needs to thrive, including (rare for these times) love from her family.

WHO was it who stepped over her bleeding, dying parents to run to the object of her lust?

Well, perhaps they can just release her in your care, and you can do a much better job. (/sarcasm)

127 posted on 11/22/2005 8:08:00 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Judge Napolitano said on tv tonight she'll be out in two years, regardless of her involvement. (because of her age)

She will be in a mental prison of her own making for the rest of her life. I predict she will kill herself before she's 30.

128 posted on 11/22/2005 8:09:59 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: painter

I predict that unless something or someone intervenes, she'll kill someone else, not herself.


129 posted on 11/22/2005 8:23:28 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

We do not have all the facts of this story. I know at 14 my mother had a tight reign on me, I was no way allowed to hang out with a guy 18 years old. With all the trouble teenagers get into with the INTERNET, that should of been monitored more closely especially because what does go on there.

I am not saying the parents were bad at all, they just did not do enough to handle a 14 yr old.


130 posted on 11/22/2005 8:39:57 AM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: MizSterious

BTW: what does a 14 yr old know from *Lust* that is an adult emotion, they might have raging hormones which are pretty much a male issue at that age, but not a female. LUST? she knows nothing of.


131 posted on 11/22/2005 8:41:43 AM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney

It might be her lust that got her in trouble, but trust me, it was a cold, murderous heart that let her step over her parents as they lay dying on the floor, so she could run off with her "special fella."


132 posted on 11/22/2005 8:50:00 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: laney

Have you been watching Oprah again? Next thing, you'll be saying that perps are victims too, and shouldn't be punished. Maybe a hearty round of Kumbayah will cure what ails them.


133 posted on 11/22/2005 8:52:20 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

This is the meaning of *LUST* do you really think this 14 year was dealing with this:?

To have an intense or obsessive desire, especially one that is sexual.


134 posted on 11/22/2005 8:53:56 AM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: MizSterious

lol


135 posted on 11/22/2005 8:54:00 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: laney

Oh, well, by all means let's giver her a pass on this one, then. Everyone should get at least two free murders if they're under 18, doncha think? (/sarcasm)


136 posted on 11/22/2005 8:55:35 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

I don't watch *Oprah* however I do know most kids now a days are exposed to the worst life has to offer, and they have to be monitored like a Nurse who works on a Intensive Care Unit with a critical patient.


137 posted on 11/22/2005 8:55:55 AM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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Skank. I hope her parents rest in peace.


138 posted on 11/22/2005 8:59:24 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: MizSterious

My co-worker was a Director of a Locked Mental Health Facility, for teens and every single one of them that was in there, for rape, murder, robbery, assault had mental and family problems, some were hopeless many were not and worst of all many parents could care less what happened to there kids in there, so wether they are abused in the womb or out of the womb the parents have some role into thier destiny.


139 posted on 11/22/2005 9:03:43 AM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: cookiedough
I agree. I really want to know what started this girl down the wrong path.

I spent time the other day perusing the websites the two of them were part of. Chilling to say the least. I will not let my children hang out in those places. No different then letting them wander downtown in the middle of the night imo. Ugly, rough and at times, very evil.
140 posted on 11/22/2005 9:06:33 AM PST by pollyannaish
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