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US doubts al-Zarqawi died in gunfight
Australian Associated Press ^ | November 21, 2005

Posted on 11/20/2005 4:38:59 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

US authorities are looking into whether al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in a gunfight in Mosul, a US official says.

But a White House spokesman said al-Zarqawi's death was "highly unlikely."

"Efforts are under way to determine whether Zarqawi wasamong those killed," the US official, in Washington said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

White House spokesman Trent Duffy, travelling with US President George W Bush in Asia, said the report was "highly unlikely and not credible."

US forces had sealed off the house in the northern city of Mosul where eight suspected al-Qaeda members died in a gunfight - some by their own hand to avoid capture.

Insurgents, meanwhile, killed an American soldier and a Marine in separate attacks over the weekend, while a British soldier was killed by a roadside bomb in the south.

In Washington, a US official said the identities of the terror suspects killed was unknown. Asked if they could include al-Zarqawi, the official replied: "There are efforts under way to determine if he was killed."

American soldiers maintained control of the site, imposing extraordinary security measures, a day after a fierce gunbattle that broke out when Iraqi police and US soldiers surrounded a house after reports that al-Qaeda in Iraq members were inside.

Three insurgents detonated explosives and killed themselves to avoid capture, Iraqi officials said. Eleven Americans were wounded, according to the US military.

(Excerpt) Read more at smh.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq; oif; ratsboostenemymorale; terrorism; zarqawi
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To: Salvey
So the White House is saying its "highly unlikely" to be Zarqawi. Why is the White House involved? I want to hear what the military has to say.

I'm hoping the issue will be raised at a DoD briefing tomorrow (assuming that there will be one tomorrow).

41 posted on 11/20/2005 5:24:18 PM PST by JWojack
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To: Dog

Calm down...

we have another one of those GREAT anonymous sources saying something before the testing is even done.

I personally doubt we got him either, but I will take it if we can get it. I just can't believe that the guy has been on the run for nearly 3 years now and would be caught relatively easily.


42 posted on 11/20/2005 5:25:57 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: COBOL2Java
where would they have gotten Zarqawi's DNA?

Helen Thomas' tongue?

That's gonna leave a mark!

43 posted on 11/20/2005 5:26:18 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Theresawithanh

I'm not giving up either. :-) Still hoping and praying.


44 posted on 11/20/2005 5:27:11 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: oceanview

His relatives in Jordan.


45 posted on 11/20/2005 5:28:15 PM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: JWojack
Why is the White House involved?

1) Because the POTUS is the Commander-in-Chief of the military.
2) Because a press corps would have to be grossly incompetent not to question White House staff about rumors such as these.

46 posted on 11/20/2005 5:30:06 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"White House spokesman Trent Duffy"

on loan from the Kennedy School of Government...


47 posted on 11/20/2005 5:30:35 PM PST by Prost1 (If you fight, fight hard, fight dirty, fight to win!)
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To: MikeinIraq

The source was not anonymous - it was Trent Duffy from the White House.


48 posted on 11/20/2005 5:30:54 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Salvey

Some say Zarkey died in a swordfight. Classic grabassticism..


49 posted on 11/20/2005 5:32:31 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: JWojack
. Why is the White House involved? I want to hear what the military has to say.

I'm hoping the issue will be raised at a DoD briefing tomorrow (assuming that there will be one tomorrow).


Errr ummm ok. The White House is involved because Iraq is their baby as well. This is a big moment if it is true, so it makes PERFECT sense for the press corps to ask the WH about this story. AS for DOD, you will be waiting for a while. Any answer you will get here for the next couple days is "We are still testing. WE will release the results whenever we have an answer." They aren't going to say anything else until they have something definitive.
50 posted on 11/20/2005 5:32:46 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: MikeinIraq

where are you reading that this was "easy"?


51 posted on 11/20/2005 5:33:06 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Coop
i was talking about this quote:

"Efforts are under way to determine whether Zarqawi wasamong those killed," the US official, in Washington said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

I kinda fall in line with that statement that Duffy made too. I just find it hard to believe that someone as lucky and as smart as Z-man (and he is relatively smart) would get rolled up so easily. Maybe that's the way it happened, but my guess is that won't be the case. But I will take it if true.
52 posted on 11/20/2005 5:34:36 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: oceanview

We have been chasing this guy for damn near 3 years.

To roll him up in a raid would be seen as "easy" compared to an operation like that which happened to nab him in Fallujah last year.

Fewer resources involved, relatively confined objective = Easy


53 posted on 11/20/2005 5:36:12 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: Pox

Maybe we did set this up on purpose to elicit a response from him as a way to pin him down and zero in on him.


54 posted on 11/20/2005 5:36:37 PM PST by formercalifornian (One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
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To: MikeinIraq

you expected we would get him in Fallujah last year? we were dropping leaflets days before the assault.

Zarqawi would have to travel in a very small circle of people - he cannot have some huge security detail surrounding him, and moving with him in convoy like manner when he moves, it would be too obvious. while this may not be him, I suspect that a takedown like this is the manner in which we would get him - a single safe house, a small number of people, of whom he is one of them.


55 posted on 11/20/2005 5:40:51 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

no I didn't.

I actually expected that the Iraqis would get him.


The guy has nearly been gotten many times. He was in a car when he hit a checkpoint and had to run.

We got a piece of him in an air raid.

Someone (either Iraqi or a US troop) shot him....

too me, this just sounds too easy. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong and I'll take being wrong any day of the week, but I don't think that I am.


56 posted on 11/20/2005 5:43:41 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: oceanview

You forgot your sarcasm button. I especially laughed at the comment referencing Helen Thomas' tongue. ROTFLMAO!


57 posted on 11/20/2005 5:48:05 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: MikeinIraq
I understand that Bush is the Commander-in-Chief, and that obviously, what happens in Iraq greatly interests the White House :-), but the White House is far removed from specific events in Iraq. The only way that they could know is if the DoD told them so.

But don't you find it the least bit strange that Duffy didn't say that tests are ongoing, or refused to comment on it? In the previous times when Zarqawi was reportedly killed, I don't recall the White House saying that it was very unlikely to be true. It seems like the White House is trying to lower expectations. Which is what you want if Zarqawi was in fact killed, because you want to see if his other associates try to contact him, before you announce his death.

Let me just say that that White House spokespeople deceive the American people frequently. I'm taking this more as spin than a real evaluation of the situation in Mosul.

58 posted on 11/20/2005 5:48:15 PM PST by JWojack
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To: JWojack

why comment on something they don't have first rate information on anyway? You said that yourself.

The WH is rather well connected to both the Intel services and the military commanders in Iraq. If there is doubt coming out of the WH, then it's probably based in a large part to what information they have obtained from those channels.


59 posted on 11/20/2005 5:49:54 PM PST by MikefromOhio (We don't give a damn for the WHOLE state of Michigan.....)
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To: MikeinIraq

Okay, understood.


60 posted on 11/20/2005 5:51:03 PM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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