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Armed standoff at Tacoma Mall (WA)
Eyewitness ^ | 11/20/05 | Ramius

Posted on 11/20/2005 12:41:22 PM PST by Ramius

Two separate reports, one from my Dad and one from a friend... both at Tacoma Mall. Not being allowed inside, due to "someone inside with a semiautomatic shooting in the mall".

Large number of police on the scene, sealing the exits. Not letting anyone in or out.

Will post a source as soon as I have one.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; mall; nihilism; shooting; tacoma
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To: djf; Ramius

DJF...thanks for that info...'aroma of Tacoma'...thats funny

Ramius...we have not been up Tacoma way in a long time...but this Wednesday, we actually will have to be going up there...will have to sniff around and see if it smells better than what I remember...


121 posted on 11/20/2005 3:06:07 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig; Baynative

Ironically I just got home from the Northgate Mall up in your neck of the woods Ern and just heard about this an hour ago on KIRO. Ops sarge hasn't paged me to come in so I know about as much as you at this point


122 posted on 11/20/2005 3:08:29 PM PST by Horatio Gates
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To: andysandmikesmom
...we have not been up Tacoma way in a long time...

Smart gal... I've always been against going to town at all, espcecially Tacoma.

123 posted on 11/20/2005 3:10:17 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: livius

Worst Clancy book ever.


124 posted on 11/20/2005 3:11:01 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: djf

Tacoma Aroma! We have that here in Florida and Georgia - paper mill smell. We call it the "smell of money." So it isn't all bad. Except when it's blowing your way...


125 posted on 11/20/2005 3:11:17 PM PST by livius
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To: BearWash
Package described as blue duffel bag on west side near Goodyear store in or on bushes.

Please keep us updated on this part of the story.

128 posted on 11/20/2005 3:16:26 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: Horatio Gates

Would you be the designate to respond?


129 posted on 11/20/2005 3:17:14 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Baynative

This doesn't look good for Christmas sales.


130 posted on 11/20/2005 3:17:20 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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To: Ramius
This is my bet. When I saw the Fox news story (basically, we don't know jack, here's a pic of what we don't know. We're talking like we're really concerned) and I saw "Food Court" on the building. If the activity was in the Food Court, my money is on gang activity. Gangs always hang out at the food court. I've noticed that the Southcenter Mall has the same thing going on. Tension pretty high.

I guess LEOs solution will be a timeout.
131 posted on 11/20/2005 3:18:10 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: juntos

132 posted on 11/20/2005 3:18:27 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ('Tis the part of the wise man to...not venture all his eggs in one basket. -- Cervantes)
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To: Ramius

Anyone heard what his grievance is? Racism? Bush? The cost of postage? Soggy French Fries?


133 posted on 11/20/2005 3:18:42 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Baynative
From post #83 -- "Package described as blue duffel bag on west side near Goodyear store in or on bushes."

Is Goodyear near the Penny's entrance?

134 posted on 11/20/2005 3:19:08 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Sam Goody is supposedly in the "I" section of the mall.


135 posted on 11/20/2005 3:19:36 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ('Tis the part of the wise man to...not venture all his eggs in one basket. -- Cervantes)
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To: Horatio Gates

They wouldn't call you on your day OFF, now WOULD they? =)


136 posted on 11/20/2005 3:19:57 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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To: Horatio Gates
Thanks for the clarification. I'm terrible with names/titles.

Both of those situations seemed entirely unnecessary.

While there isn't much new news out of the mall (two articles)...

Bail reduced for former Tacoma police officer in murder case

Published Friday, October 28th, 2005

The Associated Press

KENNEWICK, Wash. (AP) - The bail of a former Tacoma police captain charged with shooting a Tri-Cities fishing buddy to death has been reduced from $1 million to $200,000 over the objection of prosecutors.

Granting the defense request Thursday, Benton County Superior Court Judge Cameron Mitchell required that Walter W. Copland wear an electronic monitoring device if he posts bail and notify the prosecutor's office anytime he leaves his former in-laws- home on Vashon Island.

Copland, 64, retired since 1966, is charged in with first-degree murder in the shooting death of a fishing buddy, Harvey "Al" Anthis, also 64, a retired Columbia Basin College instructor, during an argument Sept. 15.

Defense lawyer Brett Purtzer said Copland's record, including two lifesaving medals and a medal of valor for getting a suicidal man to put down a loaded pistol, showed he could be trusted.

Prosecutor Andrew K. Miller countered that Copland faces at least 20 years in prison - "tantamount to a death sentence" - if convicted, and he noted that six people charged with first-degree murder in the county had become fugitives. "That is the mindset of people charged with first-degree murder," Miller said. "There is no reason for them to come back."

Copland's trial is set for Feb. 6.

Friends, family describe happy memories of slain professor

Published Saturday, September 24th, 2005

By Kristin M. Kraemer, Herald staff writer

To childhood friends, he was Harvey. But for those who came to know him as an adult, it was more simply Al.

Though the name change confused some, it was clear Friday that everyone touched by Harvey "Al" Anthis was left with good memories and zany stories.

About 600 family, friends, colleagues and former students gathered in the Columbia Basin College gymnasium for an hourlong service to "hear the lighter side" of Anthis' life.

"We were all fortunate to know Al for 64 years," said U.S. Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash. "This was a very untimely passing but let us celebrate those 64 years."

Hastings, who had known "Harv" for 48 years, led the somber trip down memory lane.

Anthis was a man with an ever-present twinkle in his eye and a little smile who loved life and sharing that zest with others. But Sept. 15, the retired CBC instructor was killed after a day of fishing and enjoying the company of friends.

Walter William Copland, 64, a retired Tacoma police captain, is charged with shooting Anthis during an argument.

"We all try to prepare ourselves for the loss of those we love. However, no one can prepare for the selfishness of another," Anthis' daughter, Jodi, wrote in a tribute to her father. It was published in the service program and read by Hastings. "I want so badly to understand; yet I know there is no answer to ever justify why. If you were here I know you could help me make some sort of sense of this.

"I know you're watching now, proudly smiling among us all."

A slide show played before the service showed pictures of Anthis, his wife Bonnie, their four children and 13 grandchildren. The images jumped from miniature golf outings to barbecues and camping trips to various occasions.

"He had a great deal of charm. He could charm anybody out of just about anything if he put his mind to it," Hastings said.

He remembered his first legislative campaign when Anthis, who had been asked to post Hastings signs on a particular day, was caught at the Heidi Haus restaurant in Pasco having a beer.

Hastings said it wasn't hard to figure out with all the signs in the parking lot, and once he'd been found, it didn't take Anthis long to talk Hastings' wife and campaign manager into getting baby-sitters and joining him for dinner.

Retired educator John Crawford said his fondest memories of Anthis involve sports, particularly golf.

"Al was a contradiction of sorts. He had the longest driver and shortest putter. He had the worst swing but somehow could hit the ball," Crawford said.

"Al was a great one to be with. He was a great one to have as a friend. É Al was one of those guys that we loved and we're going to miss."

Walt Anthis told the crowd that Friday's attendance was evidence of his brother's far reach. "All you have to do is look around and each and every person here, É for their own reason, was touched by something Al did," he said.

Walt Anthis said when he left home after graduation, his brother was known as "Harvey," but when he came back from the Army he was surprised to learn he was now using a shortened version of his middle name. Walt joked the name change may have been influenced years earlier by the 1950 movie Harvey, about a man's invisible friend -- a 6-foot white rabbit. Walt Anthis, reading an essay composed by sister Barbara Black, told people not to be sad because it's over, but be glad because it happened. "He leaves us all with a memory that we will carry forever. It's hard not to be sad, and we are, because we want to see him," he said. "We won't get that next adventure but we can all remember them. Al is off to a special adventure now that we can only imagine."

137 posted on 11/20/2005 3:20:23 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

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138 posted on 11/20/2005 3:21:50 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: livius
Ew, ew ew! I need to make friends with you!

:o)

139 posted on 11/20/2005 3:22:09 PM PST by papertyger
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

No clues yet what the motivation might be.


140 posted on 11/20/2005 3:22:54 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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