Posted on 11/20/2005 10:03:23 AM PST by Kitten Festival
The prize for the most dramatic oratory in the United States Congress in the new millennium goes to fledgling Representative Jean Schmidt. In the midst of debate over whether the House of Representatives should vote on a resolution endorsing immediate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq she conveyed a message she had received from an active duty Marine colonel, to Representative Jack Murtha. Murtha, a decorated Marine veteran, inspired the debate earlier this week by calling for withdrawal from Iraq.
Representative Smith’s message quoting the colonel was simple: “Cowards cut and run, Marines never do.” [snip] When people engage in debate within the boundaries of legitimate disagreement they should be respectful. But we need to maintain those boundaries.
Jack Murtha’s call for immediate disengagement took him far outside the boundaries of legitimate disagreement. He has never been able to articulate any plausible basis for his position on Iraq. There is a simple reason for that. There isn’t one.
Reasonable people cannot differ about whether or not the United States should press forward with our war against the terror masters. For the time being Iraq is inevitably the principal front in that war. A congressman who tries to duck his share of the responsibility for prosecuting that war is displaying moral cowardice. Any American who recommends retreat is injuring his own country and calling his own patriotism into question.
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He's a senile old fool.
ditto. I don't regard most Dem pols as traitors, I view them as morons and careerists. That goes for most of the rank and file Dems. I know quite a few vets and even Vietnam vets who are Dems. Many of them hate Bush and Republicans and are consequently anti Iraq war. But their views are mostly subordinate to their politics. If the top Jackass ie. Dem says the moon is made of green cheese, they will repeat what he says obediently without hesitation. I won't question Murtha's past service to his country. I do question his intelligence.
IMHO Bush is a man of vision, the vision of what happened on 9/11 to his country, the country that gave him the singular honor of electing him it's President. Bush has made a vow that it would never happen again and the system that caused that horror would not prosper or profit.
Using terms like Bush-Bot serves only underline your vacuous reasoning.
As to his vision I too am proudly a Bush-Bot.
OBTW: when do you start calling our President "Chimpy" or do you save that for DUmmyland?
If you advocate surrender as Sheehan and Murtha have, it puts you in their league, yes.
Where the sun don't shine, pal.
Unlike you and others on the forum I wouldn't presume to know what the effect is on American Servicemen. My sense is that few are sitting around waiting to hear what an individual congressman is saying about the war. Most are more concerned about the deployment tempo and how much (or little) time they are able to spend with their family.
I take W at his word when he says he welcomes the debate. "Common Sense" tells me we should all welcome Free Speech and open debate on the subject.
Do I care? Stupid question.
You are a rare voice of sanity. I remember the days, btw, when freepers actively opposed the Kosovo war when U.S. troops were in harm's way. Were they traitors or cowards too? Awful short, and convenient, memories here.
The knee-jerk campaign to slander and discredit Jack Murtha should cause all Americans to more closely scrutinize how this war is being conducted. It is shameful that the GOP would resort to such despicable tactics.
Go Willie Go!
They can be bad, criminals and traitors too. History is full of them.
I prefer to blame senility in this case, but don't give him a pass for playing the "vet" card.
He looks like he's spent too much time in bars with Teddy the Swimmer.
I heard that Murtha is close with Nancy Pelosi.
If that's true, then he's hopeless. I have no sympathy for the guy at all.
Not a traitor, but rather an old man in the early stages of senility being manipulated by the likes of Pelosi.
Yes
Sending surrender smoke signals intentionally, or merely stupidly, puts our troops AND MY SON at risk. The idea that I should shut up because of Murtha's stars is nauseating.
He is merely wrong.
But those who call him a coward and traitor are as wrong as he is.
And I would prefer that we leave the name calling...the wanting to brand someone who disagree's as a 'traitor'...to the Democrats and Liberals.
It's what THEY do best.
redrock
Sorry, but the man is not a coward.
"Murtha seems lucid and convinced of his position"
Had you heard his floor speech you would have not written this.
Coward is one thing not certain, but he certainly is a traitor and a sympathizer.
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