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Pot-laden truck creates armed standoff (at the Mexico border)
El Paso Times ^ | nov 19 | Daniel Borunda

Posted on 11/19/2005 11:25:56 AM PST by dennisw

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To: DoughtyOne
Plus it's always nice to roast hot dogs and marshmellows on a warm summer evening...

We think much alike. 'Course, I'd also be dancing around the fire singing, "La cucaracha".

41 posted on 11/19/2005 11:56:03 AM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: King Prout
Pot going INTO Mexico???

Only because the border patrol was trying to stop them on this side of the border. The truck was attempting to flee back into Mexico to avoid apprehension when it got stuck.

The incident began when Border Patrol agents tried to stop the dump truck on Interstate 10, sheriff's officials said. The truck fled to Mexico in the Neely's Crossing area.

The truck got stuck in the riverbed, and the driver took off running. Agents "started to retrieve the bundles (of marijuana) when the armed subjects appeared,"

42 posted on 11/19/2005 11:57:58 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: All
NBC (a.k.a., N BS) to produce series based upon this incident.

Mexican farmers protect their farm produce from maniacal, heavily-armed, foaming-at-the-mouth "Minuteperon" rightwing bigots. Mexican military coordinates ongoing actions with U.S. trade officials to help Mexican farmers market produce in U.S.

43 posted on 11/19/2005 11:58:20 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Moonman62
"Everyone had the presence of mind not to cause an international incident, or start shooting."

Uhhh...Mexico caused the international incident the moment their frickin' army crossed into our land!

Imagine how Mexico would act if our troops engaged in border incursions to dump off their citizens? Sweet mercy! It'd be on the front page of the NY Times and an emergency session of the U.N. would be called!!

44 posted on 11/19/2005 11:58:39 AM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: varon

Well, I wouldn't voice an opinion against that view. It could easily happen.


45 posted on 11/19/2005 11:58:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Prime Choice

LOL, so you're not going to just vote present hugh? Good for you.


46 posted on 11/19/2005 12:00:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Yaelle
How castrated we have become about Mexican- USA relations!

Mexicans vote. Both parties are courting them.
47 posted on 11/19/2005 12:01:12 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: thoughtomator
Depends on the status of the border within the river.

Within the United States, the rule is not to split a distinguishable terrain feature. For example, here in Virginia, county boundaries start and stop on river banks not at midstream. Similarly, for purposes of managing the Chesapeake watershed, Maryland controls the waters of the bay even where they are clearly off of the Virginia shore.

If the border between the United States and Mexico at that point runs down the middle of the river, then you probably had a situation where the rear half of the truck was in the United States and the front half in Mexico. I can see a situation where US Border Patrol agents are at the back of the truck unloading bales of marijuana as fast as they can while the smugglers and their Mexican army security force are hooking up the bulldozer at the front end of the truck. Extremely tense is probably an understatement as to how dangerous the situation was.

I hope US Border Patrol got photographs and videos of this. And I hope there are identifiable facial features in the images. The Mexican government needs to be brought to task over this.

We also need to modify the "Posse Comitatus" to allow the full scale use of the armed forces to curb these abuses of the border. (I'm thinking encounters with some BCTs from 4th ID would make the Mexican Army a little more mannerly.)
48 posted on 11/19/2005 12:01:58 PM PST by Captain Rhino (If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense!)
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To: varon

And probably confiscate the weapons of any who dare to defend themselves.


49 posted on 11/19/2005 12:02:12 PM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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To: DumpsterDiver

ah - that makes more sense now. thanks.


50 posted on 11/19/2005 12:03:12 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: dennisw; voiceinthewind; calrighty; tall_tex; Not a 60s Hippy; phatoldphart; Texas WOP; Adrastus; ..

Tanks Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


51 posted on 11/19/2005 12:03:21 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Prime Choice

Its pretty obvious that this truck has crossed there before , otherwise how did he know the bulldozer and the troops would be there waiting to rescue him?

Just this week we read stories about some buttwipe giving free sneakers to the Mexicans to cross the border with, catholics having a mission for them to rest up in before their crossing, Tunnels dug for the purpose, Now the Mexican Army rescuing a truck load of dope. Come on we are being invaded nightly and when we say anything here come El Zorro Fox to tell us how unfair we are.Its time this crap stopped.


52 posted on 11/19/2005 12:03:35 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Prime Choice
"Bottom line: it's going to take the loss of an entire American CITY for anyone to even consider doing anything meaningful on an appreciable scale."

OK--I propose San Francisco...

53 posted on 11/19/2005 12:05:43 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: sgtbono2002

Where is Black Jack Pershing when you REALLY need him?


54 posted on 11/19/2005 12:05:58 PM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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To: Army Air Corps

just a heads-up: some folks have gotten booted from FR for suggesting just such measures on the border.

though the past two years have swamped us with so much evidence of the need for such measures that one can carefully advocate them here now, it remains a VERY touchy topic and retains some peril.

please be careful what you say and how you say it... and with whom you engage in argument over it - there are some pro-illegal trolls on Border threads, and they are VERY skilled at baiting FReepers into oversimplifications, overstatements, and "offensive" comments.


55 posted on 11/19/2005 12:10:02 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: tillacum

I suspect you insult feral dogs.


56 posted on 11/19/2005 12:11:42 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Prime Choice

shoulder-launched thermobaric weapons, like the Marines now have, would do for a garbage truck rather nicely.


57 posted on 11/19/2005 12:15:32 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Prime Choice

welcome to the club! On this issue I have felt like Cassandra of Troy since 1990


58 posted on 11/19/2005 12:17:00 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

OHHHH, I am so sorry I offended the dog population of the world and especially the feral ones who run in packs. I will lash myself 700 strokes with a cooked noodle. I'm sorry pups.


59 posted on 11/19/2005 12:17:41 PM PST by tillacum
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To: King Prout

Thanks for the heads-up.

I have no problem with legal immigration. I do have a problem with a porous border that can be easily crossed by anyone and coddling of people who violate laws related to immigration and border security (regardless of their country of origin).

I recall an icident in the mid-1980s when a group of Libyans had crossed the border posing as illegal immigrants from Mexico; the TV stations in the bordr states issued alerts for people to be alert and report any suspicious folks who didn't behave like the typical illegal immigrant from Mexico. Now, we hear stories of AQ members posing as illegal immigrants crossing the border. Inicidents like this cause me to ask for a fortified boder. We have a limited number of BP personnel and a fortified fence will make it easier for us to allocate BP resources. Then, there is the need to expand the USCG...


60 posted on 11/19/2005 12:18:06 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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