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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: SE Mom; Howlin
JD Hayworth came up with this idea? Good call!

I don't know, but I sure wish JD spoke tonight... he would've been one of the best speakers the Pubbies had tonight.

4,181 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:29 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Howlin

I don't think so.


4,182 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:30 PM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: goodnesswins

The dims are struggling on how to proceed........


4,183 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:36 PM PST by texianyankee
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To: aft_lizard

I thought they did that earlier?


4,184 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:36 PM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: Mo1
None of the Democrats defended their reasons. They only attacked the Republicans for being meanies. Childish to the last.
4,185 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:37 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: texianyankee
your Gingrey did his district well.....way to go.

Proud to vote for him before, and damn proud to do it again.

4,186 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:38 PM PST by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: Mo1

My toilet needs a plunger! 3 men in my house ya know! :-D


4,187 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:41 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants surrender. It's that simple.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Tonight we here in the Great State of New Jersey (Cockpit of the Revolution) are shoulder to shoulder with our brothers and sisters from The Great State of Georgia. Proud to be with all y'all.


4,188 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:45 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The most important thing that comes out of this is the Demos are on record. It could haunt them for years depending how the long term war goes.


4,189 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:46 PM PST by AGreatPer
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To: RHINO369

According to C Span, the Repubs are voting to withdraw the troops immediately


4,190 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:46 PM PST by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: McGavin999

"They're voting on the right to vote on a bill the same day it's introduced. Next vote will be on Murtha's"

AH!


4,191 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:50 PM PST by NapkinUser ("It is a damn poor mind indeed which can think of only one way to spell a word." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Howlin

So why are we agreeing to it then?


4,192 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:51 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26)
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To: Mo1

It's about time CSPAN changed the wording on their graphics. They had it exactly backwards as to how they were voting.


4,193 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:53 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: MinuteGal
I agree--I think he's got a little Tom Selleck thing going on with that moustache.
4,194 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:54 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: StAnDeliver

Hey, where the popcorn?!..Was it posted a few thousand posts ago, maybe?


4,195 posted on 11/18/2005 6:24:58 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Fri Nov 18 20:15:40 2005

WHAT PELOUSY SAID:

...(GOP sunk to a new low...Even for them. They have engaged in an act of deception that undermines any shred of dignity that might be left in this republican congress. But deception has been the order of the day throughout the entire iraq engagement. Mr. Hunter's resolution is a continuation of that deception. It is a political stunt and it should be rejected by this house. The republican deception today is a disgrace. It is a disservice to our country and to our men and women.

They and the american people deserve better. It is an insult to the integrity of jack murtha, one of the most distinguished members to ever serve in this house of representatives. As has been said, jack murtha is a decorated war veteran, two purple hearts, the bronze star for his combat service, the vietnam cross of gallantry, 37 years of active and reserve duty in the marines.

His lifetime motto has been semper phi, and yes, our republican colleagues -- semper fi and yes, our republican colleagues call him a coward and accuse him of cooperating with the enemy. As the senior democrat on the defense appropriations committee he is known and respected for his bipartisanship.

That is why this republican attack on him is so dishonest. Mr. Murtha has dealt the mighty blow of truth to the president's failed iraq policy. The american people have rallied to jack murtha's message of truth. But you can't handle the truth. Why are the republicans so afraid of the facts?

Mr. Speaker, the republican senator from ohio, robert taft, who would become the republican leader of the senate, said criticism in a time of war is essential to the maintenance of any democratic government.

Indeed, mr. Murtha's courageous action to speak truth to power is a great act of patriotism. As one who has always had the interest of america's men and women in uniform as his top priority, mr. Murtha has acted as he always does, in their interest.

Let us all join him in saluting our troops for their courage, their patriotism and the sacrifice that they are willing to make and thank jack murtha for his loyalty to them.

Thank you, mr. Speaker mr. Murtha. Thank you, mr. Speaker.

The gentleman from georgia. The gentleman from (GOP)Georgia.

Mr. Gingrey: Mr. Speaker, in closing it is important to restate for the morale of our troops that this congress and this country remain resolves in the war against terrorism from the streets of iraq to the mountains of afghanistan, america will leave no spider hole, no palace, no bunker overlooked as we help freedom-loving people fight the terrorist insurgency of islamo-fascists and protect democracy worldwide. Our greatest loss would be to withdraw our troops thereby ceding victory to terrorists who murder and hide under the cover of shadows.

Mr. Speaker, over 2,000 of our best and bravest have fought and sacrificed their lives in defense of democracy, and in the face of these terrorists. These individuals deserve our thanks and their families need to know that they did not die in vain.

Mr. Speaker, a lot of words have been thrown about in this chamber tonight but talk is often cheap and while cheap talk abounds, unfortunately cheap pak is not bounded. It's not ins thrateth slated by oceans or mountains and certainly not by the media. The words of this congress and its members echo out beyond this hallowed chamber, behind these hallowed halls to every household and every foreign shore. Our troops are listening, mr. Speaker, they hear those who denigrate their mission.

They hear those who rely on the false pillar of semantics, seeking to divide the american people. Mr. Speaker, our troops are listening tonight. And while talk is cheap, our vote is sacrosanct. So i call on my colleagues on both sthrilesslilse to put their vote on the record and put -- both sides of the aisle to put their vote on the record and put the rhetoric aside.

I urge my colleagues to support the rule. Let's have this debate for the sake of our troops and I yield back the balance of my time and move the previous question.

The speaker pro tempore: The gentleman's time has expired.

Without objection, the previous question is ordered. The question is on adoption of the resolution.

All those in favor say aye. Those opposed, no. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The gentlelady from new york. Ms. Slaughter: On that i request the yeas and nays. The speaker pro tempore: The yeas and nays have been requested. If those favoring the yeas and nays will rise. A sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered.

Members will record their rotes-vote by electronic device. This will be a 15-minute vote.

[Captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., In cooperation with the united states house of representatives. Any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the U.S. House of representatives.]

4,196 posted on 11/18/2005 6:25:06 PM PST by GRRRRR (America is a better place because of people like us...)
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To: golas1964

I thought they already voted on voting...

LOL!

HTis is UNREAL!

NO matter nothing ever gets done.....


4,197 posted on 11/18/2005 6:25:07 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I guess he wasn't telling the truth, huh?


4,198 posted on 11/18/2005 6:25:15 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Mo1
GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!!

This is great. A brilliant move by the GOP.

4,199 posted on 11/18/2005 6:25:15 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: LS
Middle America is watching "Ghost Whisperer." (Actually, I'm taping her, er . . . it to watch it later). This is not getting the coverage that it needs to get,

Jennifer Love Hewiit is in a low cut top again?

4,200 posted on 11/18/2005 6:25:22 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Bin Laden said America was a paper tiger, he was only 48% right. 48% vote Democrat)
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