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Immigrant Polygamy Is a Factor in French Unrest, a Gaullist Says
New York Times ^ | November 18, 2005 | ELAINE SCIOLINO

Posted on 11/18/2005 2:06:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

PARIS, Nov. 17 - In the search for explanations for the riots that have rocked France, some politicians and intellectuals are pointing to a novel one: polygamy.

In an interview with RTL radio on Wednesday, Bernard Accoyer, the parliamentary leader of President Jacques Chirac's Gaullist party, the Union for a Popular Movement, called polygamy "certainly one of the causes, though not the only one" for France's worst unrest in four decades. He blamed the former Socialist government of Prime Minister Lionel Jospin for being "strangely lax" in enforcing the ban on polygamy. Pierre Cardo, a deputy in Parliament from Mr. Chirac's party, said that the most difficult juvenile delinquents were "often products of polygamous families."

Hélène Carrère d'Encausse, one of the country's most eminent historians and the permanent secretary of the Académie Française, was even more pointed. "Everyone is astonished; why are African children in the streets and not at school?" she said on Russian television in Moscow on Sunday. "Why can't their parents buy an apartment? It's clear why. Many of these Africans, I tell you, are polygamous. In an apartment, there are three or four wives and 25 children." Even the interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, has suggested that polygamy makes it harder for North African Arabs and sub-Saharan Africans to integrate into French life.

"There are more problems for a child of an immigrant of black Africa or of North Africa than for a son of a Swede, a Dane or a Hungarian," said Mr. Sarkozy, the son of a Hungarian father, in an interview with France 2 television on Nov. 10. "Because culture, because polygamy, because social origins contribute to more hardships for him."

The remarks have set off an uproar in France and charges of racism.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: family; famlies; france; immigration; integration; parenting; polygamy; riots; youth

1 posted on 11/18/2005 2:06:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The remarks have set off an uproar in France and charges of racism."

If pointing out the activity or practices that result in poverty, ignorance or unemployment of Blacks is racism -- then I'm a racist...

France has invited and subsidized the lowest form of immigrant possible.......
Morons that believe they are entitled to retain their non-competitive behavior and have someone else support them -- while they copulate and populate on welfare!

Deport the bastards, quickly.

Semper Fi

2 posted on 11/18/2005 2:18:16 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

There's a lot of squirming going on in France.


3 posted on 11/18/2005 2:24:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The French have put their house in order or lose their nation in 2 generations.


4 posted on 11/18/2005 3:09:31 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7
The slippery slope is looking pretty steep right now.
5 posted on 11/18/2005 3:16:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like they're facing up to the internal threat of Islam. Polygamy is just one of their barbarous practices.


6 posted on 11/18/2005 3:53:10 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
***Henry’s quip about the bone in the nose elicited the expected quota of outrage from culture-cultists. But the outrage missed the serious and, ultimately, the deeply humane point of the observation. What Sandall calls romantic primitivism puts a premium on quaintness, which it then embroiders with the rhetoric of authenticity. There are two casualties of this process. One is an intellectual casualty: it becomes increasingly difficult to tell the truth about the achievements and liabilities of other cultures. The other casualty is a moral, social, and political one. Who suffers from the expression of romantic primitivism? Not the Lauren Huttons and Claude Lévi-Strausses of the world. On the contrary, the people who suffer are the objects of the romantic primitive’s compassion, “respect,” and pretended emulation. *** Source
7 posted on 11/18/2005 3:56:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Polygamy creates serious social problems.

Especially when coupled with brutality of women.

Young males raised to be brutes, with remote or absent fathers, are ticking time bombs.


8 posted on 11/18/2005 4:03:59 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: tkathy

Bump!


9 posted on 11/18/2005 4:05:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: river rat

If pointing out the activity or practices that result in poverty, ignorance or unemployment of Blacks is racism -- then I'm a racist...==

Accually any critic thoughts about any particular group or race may be called "racism" or for example "antisemitism"
because criticism is always deminish object.

IMO it is propagadistic wear of terminology.

The example from other area. Any attack in Iraq they call now a "terrorism". But according to definition the terrorism is just attack on civilians.
But they call now terrorism the attack on police and military too.

According definition the "racism" is just belittling other race and same time superbing own.
But today any critical opinion on group is racism. So you simply cann't critisize no group anymore.


11 posted on 11/18/2005 4:53:24 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The only factor in France's unrest is Islam.


12 posted on 11/18/2005 5:27:41 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How is polygamy racist? Saying that only Muslims can be polygamist is racist. Can't anyone have more than one wife?

I don't see how this is an idealogical difference for France? I would think that if gay marriage goes anything goes.

13 posted on 11/18/2005 7:11:33 AM PST by one more state
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How is polygamy racist? Saying that only Muslims can be polygamist is racist. Can't anyone have more than one wife?

I don't see how this is an idealogical difference for France? I would think that if gay marriage goes anything goes.

14 posted on 11/18/2005 7:11:33 AM PST by one more state
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To: one more state
In an apartment, there are three or four wives and 25 children

I don't see how laws against polygamy will help these socialist. These women will get a so called divorce and be single mothers which they are now. France will then have to give them all separate apartments. France doesn't want to pay for that.

15 posted on 11/18/2005 7:17:50 AM PST by one more state
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To: tkathy

"...are ticking time bombs..."

Literally!


16 posted on 11/18/2005 7:19:54 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: tkathy

can you think of any behavior which is not a social problem "especially when coupled with brutality of women?"


17 posted on 11/18/2005 7:21:34 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Shouldn't they be celebrating their diversity?


18 posted on 11/18/2005 7:22:55 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: bigsigh

Raising boys to brutalize and murder their mothers, sisters, and daughters is not just a cutsey little behavior to be ridiculed.

It is a core problem of the demonic behavior of islamofascists.


19 posted on 11/18/2005 8:24:44 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: tkathy

the poster made no correlation to polygamy and that was my point. Thanx for the rant anyway.


20 posted on 11/18/2005 10:32:08 PM PST by bigsigh
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