Posted on 11/17/2005 6:17:39 PM PST by Roberts
A former CIA director has exclusively told ITV News that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government.
The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture".
He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory".
The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling.
The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US.
Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".
On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture.
"He condones torture, what else is he?".
Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.
They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction.
No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility.
Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam.
He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans.
Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned.
The nauseating world of liberal, hand-wringing, traitors. They should all be made to move to Iran for a few years...or maybe communist China.
The problem is that liberals and Democrats live in a parallel world that is not based in reality. Ask one of them the following question: If your daughter was kidnapped by two men and one was caught, would you really care what was done to the one who was caught if it helped to find your daughter?
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I wonder if they would approve a little arm twisting to find out where their teen age daughter was taken by a sexual predator? Nah! They'd let her be defiled...rather than abuse a prisoner. /sarcasm
Very good. I like that.
This Turner guy was a real tongue and groove fit with Peanut Carter. Seems to me he condoned the torture of dozens of Americans for 444 days, as he and his boss did nothing about it. Now others must deal with his droppings of decades ago.
These guys need to all go crawl under a rock.
I'd rather we keep them "in range"....for WHEN (not if) the SHTF.....
Semper Fi
We are now seeing true face of the Democrat Party. Their absolute hatred of America and its traditional ideals has been unveiled for the world to see this week. Anyone who saw Kerry and Murtha hatefully holding forth today can envision what's ahead. The Pubbies had better bring out the big guns.
The next thing you know they will be passing the hat for donations to Saddam's legal defense fund.
The CIA needs to be dismantled. What part of it is not another tool for the left is incompetent.
Nary a one of them.
I would think that as newly sworn Chief Justice your comments are inappropriate here.
Turner was the carter buddy who destroyed the CIA in the '70s. He should have been hanged for treason.
How did we ever make it through the Carter years without speaking Chinese or Russian today as a first language?
[Biggles pushes in a comfy chair -- a really plush one]
Ximinez: So you think you are strong because you can survive the soft cushions. Well, we shall see. Biggles! Put her in the Comfy Chair!
[They roughly push her into the Comfy Chair]
Old liberal admirals never die they just go insane in the membrane. Someone better check and see if he hasn't wandered off from a home somewhere. By the way does anyone know if Reagan fired him?
Everytime a liberal or a Democrat opens his mouth, another insurgent kills an American soldier; another suicide bomber straps on a belt and blows up 50 people. The only thing that will halt the spread of terrorism is an America and a world united against it. If Americans are not intelligent enough to see through the crocodile tears, demagoguery, and dementia of retrogressive liberal Democrats, this country is doomed.
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