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'Cheney is vice president for torture' (Alert: Another traitor in our midst)
ITV.com ^ | 11/17/05 | itv.com

Posted on 11/17/2005 6:17:39 PM PST by Roberts

A former CIA director has exclusively told ITV News that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government.

The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture".

He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory".

The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling.

The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US.

Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".

On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture.

"He condones torture, what else is he?".

Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction.

No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility.

Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam.

He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans.

Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned.


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KEYWORDS: cheney; dirtyrats; stansfieldtraitor
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To: Roberts

The nauseating world of liberal, hand-wringing, traitors. They should all be made to move to Iran for a few years...or maybe communist China.


21 posted on 11/17/2005 6:35:41 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Roberts

The problem is that liberals and Democrats live in a parallel world that is not based in reality. Ask one of them the following question: If your daughter was kidnapped by two men and one was caught, would you really care what was done to the one who was caught if it helped to find your daughter?


22 posted on 11/17/2005 6:36:05 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

23 posted on 11/17/2005 6:38:25 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Roberts

I wonder if they would approve a little arm twisting to find out where their teen age daughter was taken by a sexual predator? Nah! They'd let her be defiled...rather than abuse a prisoner. /sarcasm


24 posted on 11/17/2005 6:39:21 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Terrorists know how to avoid torture. Retire."

Very good. I like that.

25 posted on 11/17/2005 6:42:54 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Roberts

This Turner guy was a real tongue and groove fit with Peanut Carter. Seems to me he condoned the torture of dozens of Americans for 444 days, as he and his boss did nothing about it. Now others must deal with his droppings of decades ago.


26 posted on 11/17/2005 6:43:12 PM PST by tarepeter
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To: bybybill

These guys need to all go crawl under a rock.


27 posted on 11/17/2005 6:45:20 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Roberts
Stansfield Turner is one of the main reasons that the CIA is the F'D up organization it is today. It never recovered from the short, but devastating reign of that treasonous leftist P.O.S.!
28 posted on 11/17/2005 6:46:04 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: EagleUSA

I'd rather we keep them "in range"....for WHEN (not if) the SHTF.....

Semper Fi


29 posted on 11/17/2005 6:47:20 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Roberts
Stansfield Traitor. Appointed by Jimmah Carter to castrate the CIA. He did so with the enthusiastic efforts of the [Sen. Frank D-Idaho) Church Committee. Church, appropriately, died shortly afterward of testicular cancer.

We are now seeing true face of the Democrat Party. Their absolute hatred of America and its traditional ideals has been unveiled for the world to see this week. Anyone who saw Kerry and Murtha hatefully holding forth today can envision what's ahead. The Pubbies had better bring out the big guns.

30 posted on 11/17/2005 6:48:17 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: headstamp
"Man the hyenas are coming out of the woodwork now."

The next thing you know they will be passing the hat for donations to Saddam's legal defense fund.

31 posted on 11/17/2005 6:50:09 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Roberts

The CIA needs to be dismantled. What part of it is not another tool for the left is incompetent.


32 posted on 11/17/2005 6:50:23 PM PST by Fledermaus (Don't Ever Make Our Constituents Realize Any Truth)
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To: armydawg1

Nary a one of them.


33 posted on 11/17/2005 6:51:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Roberts

I would think that as newly sworn Chief Justice your comments are inappropriate here.


34 posted on 11/17/2005 6:51:30 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: Roberts

Turner was the carter buddy who destroyed the CIA in the '70s. He should have been hanged for treason.


35 posted on 11/17/2005 6:57:44 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Roberts

How did we ever make it through the Carter years without speaking Chinese or Russian today as a first language?


36 posted on 11/17/2005 6:59:24 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: nutmeg

[Biggles pushes in a comfy chair -- a really plush one]

Ximinez: So you think you are strong because you can survive the soft cushions. Well, we shall see. Biggles! Put her in the Comfy Chair!

[They roughly push her into the Comfy Chair]

37 posted on 11/17/2005 6:59:26 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Roberts
Thank you John McCain. (sarcasm)
38 posted on 11/17/2005 6:59:48 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BearWash

Old liberal admirals never die they just go insane in the membrane. Someone better check and see if he hasn't wandered off from a home somewhere. By the way does anyone know if Reagan fired him?


39 posted on 11/17/2005 7:03:46 PM PST by eddie2 (Go Cats)
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To: Bernard Marx
"We are now seeing true face of the Democrat Party."

Everytime a liberal or a Democrat opens his mouth, another insurgent kills an American soldier; another suicide bomber straps on a belt and blows up 50 people. The only thing that will halt the spread of terrorism is an America and a world united against it. If Americans are not intelligent enough to see through the crocodile tears, demagoguery, and dementia of retrogressive liberal Democrats, this country is doomed.

40 posted on 11/17/2005 7:04:58 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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