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'Cheney is vice president for torture' (Alert: Another traitor in our midst)
ITV.com ^ | 11/17/05 | itv.com

Posted on 11/17/2005 6:17:39 PM PST by Roberts

A former CIA director has exclusively told ITV News that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government.

The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture".

He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory".

The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling.

The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US.

Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".

On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture.

"He condones torture, what else is he?".

Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction.

No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility.

Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam.

He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans.

Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned.


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Yet anothe traitor in our midst. Jimmuh Carter's CIA Director is following a dangerous path that too many in our country are willing to follow these days, actively working for the defeat of our forces. What a disgrace.
1 posted on 11/17/2005 6:17:40 PM PST by Roberts
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SICK
But, what did we expect?


2 posted on 11/17/2005 6:20:02 PM PST by bybybill
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Let me guess, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981 sponsored the blacksites, and encourage them to be used in the fullest. This guy is on the take.


4 posted on 11/17/2005 6:21:08 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "..."

Who cares what he said?

5 posted on 11/17/2005 6:21:08 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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Stanfield Turner was pro-terrorist when he was in charge of destoying the CIA, and he is still pro-terrorist today. Maybe the single worst senior appointment in US history, with the possible exception of Ramsey Clark. What a disgusting human being, who has made a career out of undermining his country's national security. He is no better than Alger Hiss.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 6:21:55 PM PST by speedy
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This is the guy who fired all the Republicans who worked at the CIA.

He's too partisan to be believed.

7 posted on 11/17/2005 6:22:19 PM PST by muawiyah (u)
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Man the hyenas are coming out of the woodwork now.

This is sounding more and more like 2004 Election Redux complete with the Howling Liberal Banshees.
8 posted on 11/17/2005 6:22:28 PM PST by headstamp
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Reminds me of that old "Get Smart" line from KAOS: "Next time I say torture, MAYbe you listen"


9 posted on 11/17/2005 6:23:17 PM PST by P.O.E. (Liberalism is the opiate of the elite classes.)
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Once again the Carter administration jumps up to bite us in the butt. Never before in American history has so much been done to so many by so few. Did any one in the Carter crew have any sense at all? Anyone? Stansfield Turner is a lunatic, idiotic horses ass. But that might not be fair to horses.

Thank God I didnt serve under Carter in the Navy. Pity his poor crew. I would love for one of his crew members to come forward with a synopsis of how that was.


10 posted on 11/17/2005 6:23:25 PM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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How the heck would he know anything that is going on in the Bush administration. What's he been doing since he was in the failed Carter administration. What is it with these old guys.


11 posted on 11/17/2005 6:24:00 PM PST by beandog (Proud bRushbot)
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There just isn't enough tinfoil in the world.

Willy Peter, Secret planes, Cameras in the toilet, Bananas at Wal*Mart?

Next the "Dean Scream" will be some form of mind control...

12 posted on 11/17/2005 6:24:17 PM PST by xcamel (Operation Spread The Truth resource page http://lrllamas.com/OSTT)
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Stanfield Turner was pro-terrorist when he was in charge of destoying the CIA, and he is still pro-terrorist today.

Exactly right -

13 posted on 11/17/2005 6:25:37 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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It's really sad that the people who are running off at the moth like this, weren't working on the 100th floor of the WTC on 09/11. If terrorists who don't give a s--t about dying anyway, can be coerced to divulge information that can save one, two or a thousand lives, I say go for it.

Terrorists know how to avoid torture. Retire.

Turner, you're an ass!


14 posted on 11/17/2005 6:25:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture. "He condones torture, what else is he?".

And his proof of this would be? Why are some folks, that are constantly quoted in the MSM, allowed to just spout off anything that they believe and no one questions the validity of such claims? That is what is wrong with the dying MSM - eventually no one will believe them, even the dimmest bulb in the pack.

15 posted on 11/17/2005 6:26:22 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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As soon as I got to "Jimmuh Carter's CIA Director " I just started to laugh.... why the heck would we believe ANYTHING this guy would say- not to mention- wasn't he done over 20 years ago? What the heck does HE know about anything that is going on NOW!?!?! Sadly- we know to dismiss anything he says as not even leftist propaganda- but just a whacked out whiner looking for a chance to see his name in the news again...It is a cry for attention--- but the sad part is that most of America won't know any better and just might believe this moron! OY! America- the wountry with the MOST FREE information for its people- but the LAZIEST people in the world at actually wanting the TRUTH in their information!
16 posted on 11/17/2005 6:27:10 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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I wonder what clinton has on this guy? Yesterday clinton verbably attacked America. He is very very scared about something. Could it be Able Danger?
17 posted on 11/17/2005 6:28:07 PM PST by TBall
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Man the hyenas are coming out of the woodwork now.

This is sounding more and more like 2004 Election Redux complete with the Howling Liberal Banshees.

You said it. They're going nuts because the President and his administration have finally started to fight back. This garbage and that jerk from PA calling for our withdrawl from Iraq were probably coordinated.

18 posted on 11/17/2005 6:29:17 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".

Headline should read...
"Carter administration endorsed torture".

19 posted on 11/17/2005 6:29:40 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Headline should read...
"Carter administration endorsed torture".

No, the Headline should read...
"Carter administration WAS torture".


20 posted on 11/17/2005 6:33:52 PM PST by blue-duncan
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