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French unrest falls to 'normal' levels
Yahoo! News ^ | 11/16/05 | Timothy Heritage

Posted on 11/17/2005 8:14:43 AM PST by libertarianPA

PARIS (Reuters) - Urban violence in France fell to normal levels on Thursday after three weeks of rioting in run-down suburbs, allowing the government to begin mapping out plans to tackle the problems that sparked the unrest.

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Ninety-eight vehicles were set ablaze during the night, a sharp drop from the peak of the violence when 1,400 vehicles were torched in one night on November 6 by youths who say they are excluded from mainstream French society.

"The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said.

France's worst civil unrest in almost 40 years has receded since the government adopted emergency measures last week, although few areas have used the special powers, which include house-to-house searches and curfews.

Parliament extended the measures for another three months on Wednesday as a precaution in case violence surges again.

About 9,000 vehicles have been set on fire and 3,000 people detained during the unrest, which has mainly involved youngsters of Arab and African origin, but also some white youths, torching cars and setting fire to buildings such as schools and churches.

"It was necessary to make a gesture to everyone and show we are committed to restoring order. I think the message has been clearly heard by everyone," government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope told France's RMC radio.

President Jacques Chirac has been criticized for saying little during the crisis, which began on October 27 after the accidental deaths of two youths who were electrocuted as they hid in a power substation while apparently fleeing police.

But he raised his profile on Monday by addressing the "poison" of discrimination in a nationwide television address and announcing plans to create a voluntary task force to train youngsters and break down their sense of exclusion.

Chirac began acting on his proposal on Thursday by summoning key members of the center-right government, including the interior and defense ministers, to discuss how to implement the plan. Details of the discussions were not immediately available.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin has also announced he will restore 100 million euros in axed credits to local associations, outlined new plans to create jobs and said he will lower to 14 the age for apprenticeships.

Many disillusioned youngsters doubt the government will make good on its promises, but ministers say they are determined to deal with long-running problems such as poor housing, crime and unemployment.

Tourism Minister Leon Bertrand, one of only three non-whites in the government, called in Liberation newspaper for a "political response that goes beyond the ordinary rules of governance by opening ... a national debate on the changes in our society to rekindle social dialogue."

"You can see we have to face the future, and the future is a lot more jobs, a lot more prevention (of problems) and an education system that is better adapted to a group of our citizens who today feel lost," Cope said.

Some center-right ministers have angered anti-racist groups by saying polygamy may be one of the causes behind the unrest because children from large polygamous families have problems integrating into society.

But Cope sought to play down the controversy, saying it was not easy to draw a direct link, although the problems of polygamy, which is illegal in France, and of large families living in crowded apartments must be tackled.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: france; frenchgovernment; frenchriots; parisriots
Phew. And only 3-1/2 weeks after the trouble started. Talk about swift results.

Vive la France!

1 posted on 11/17/2005 8:14:44 AM PST by libertarianPA
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To: libertarianPA

And what would they do if Hitler invaded again??? Call the U.S. and Britain? Most likely.


2 posted on 11/17/2005 8:16:15 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: libertarianPA

""The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said."


LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Oh boy. I needed that laugh. My thirteen year old says, "So how's that normal?" Heh,heh,heh,...


3 posted on 11/17/2005 8:21:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: libertarianPA
"The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said.
4 posted on 11/17/2005 8:21:24 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: libertarianPA
The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France.

By my math, that's an average of 36,500 vehicles per year burned. I guess that's how John Kerry defines as terrorism being a "nuisance".

5 posted on 11/17/2005 8:22:59 AM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: libertarianPA

And just what is "normal levels"? Is that to suggest that this goes on all the time, only this time it got a little out-of-hand. Didn't John Kerry make some comment during his election campaign about going back to the days of when we had tolerable levels of terrorism?


6 posted on 11/17/2005 8:26:08 AM PST by mfnorman
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To: metmom

Easy, the French are in total denial with some moderate delusion thrown in.

One can rationalize anything it seems.


7 posted on 11/17/2005 8:28:43 AM PST by headstamp
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To: libertarianPA
French unrest falls to 'normal' levels

There's a joke somewhere in that headline. I guess the 'normal' level of unrest means that the French truckers are on strike again.
8 posted on 11/17/2005 8:36:38 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: EagleUSA

"Call the U.S. and Britain"
Hello, this is the United States. We are not in now. Please leave a message at the beep. We will get back you.


9 posted on 11/17/2005 9:02:37 AM PST by Holicheese (Would you like a beer? No thanks, I will have a bud light.)
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To: Holicheese

Hello, this is the United States. We are not in now. Please leave a message at the beep. We will get back you.
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I just changed the message on my answering machine!! :-)



10 posted on 11/17/2005 9:04:00 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: headstamp

Easy, the French are in total denial with some moderate delusion thrown in.
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Welcome to a TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE of socialism mixed with utopian liberalism.

Hello Washington, are you watching this??


11 posted on 11/17/2005 9:05:07 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: libertarianPA
"It was necessary to make a gesture to everyone and show we are committed to restoring order. I think the message has been clearly heard by everyone," government spokesman Jean-Francois Cope told France's RMC radio.

I can't come to the phone right now because I am rolling on the ground laughing hysterically.
12 posted on 11/17/2005 9:26:55 AM PST by russesjunjee (Islam and the mainstream media worship the same master...)
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To: libertarianPA
<"The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said.

It is always true that the people (French), who take themselves the most seriously, are the most likely to become jokes.
13 posted on 11/17/2005 10:02:38 AM PST by etradervic (Able Danger, Peter Paul Campaign Fraud, Travelgate, Whitewater, Sandy Berger...demand answers!)
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To: libertarianPA
It's back to the good life in France:


14 posted on 11/17/2005 10:06:59 AM PST by etradervic (Able Danger, Peter Paul Campaign Fraud, Travelgate, Whitewater, Sandy Berger...demand answers!)
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"poor housing"-free housing not good enough give them chateaus
"crime"-their fault
"unemployment"- too lasy to start their own businesses.


15 posted on 11/17/2005 10:17:37 AM PST by omega4179 (Tancredo.)
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To: libertarianPA
"The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said.

Isn't this the definition of FUBAR!

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16 posted on 11/17/2005 2:58:26 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (My honor student beat up France.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
"The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said.

Historical Translation: "The situation has returned to normal because about 100 NAZI German battalions' worth of vehicles are patrolling the streets each night in France," a Vichy police spokesman said."

There. That puts it all into perspective.

To the government of France, if any US state (you know, us 'barbarians') had "only" 100 cars a night burned, we'd call out every police officer available, the National Guard, and deputize as many (armed) civilians as possible to reduce that number to the US NORMAL for intentional autos burned: ZERO!

Those who tolerate terrorism will receive it in abundance.
17 posted on 11/17/2005 4:02:02 PM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: etradervic

Paris, the City of Light


18 posted on 11/17/2005 4:04:09 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: M1Tanker
"The situation has returned to normal because about 100 vehicles are set on fire each night in France," a police spokesman said.

Honestly - that sentence just FLOORED me!


Those who tolerate terrorism will receive it in abundance.

You betcha!

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19 posted on 11/17/2005 4:22:36 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (My honor student beat up France.)
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To: neodad

That is double the annual number in the US, or nearly TEN TIMES our rate/population.

It is, in fact half the number of ALL arsons in the US.

Give an Arab an automatic rifle, and he'll use it to dramatically ejaculate into the air; give him a book of matches...


20 posted on 11/17/2005 4:34:02 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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