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ANNOUNCEMENT: Sens. Warner and Stevens Denounce Democrats' Tactics on Senate Floor
CSpan ^ | 11/17/2005

Posted on 11/17/2005 7:16:53 AM PST by katieanna

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How many people remember that the vote in the House to authorize Clinton to use airpower to attack the Serbians in serbia and Kosovo deadlocked, and was therefore NOT agreed to?


41 posted on 11/17/2005 10:36:14 AM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: katieanna

I'm glad to finally seeing them step up.


42 posted on 11/17/2005 10:37:06 AM PST by NeoCaveman (ANWR is national security, RINO's keep us dependent on foreign oil, aiding our enemies)
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To: Txsleuth
We need to write all Congress not just those in our home State and remind them just because we can't vote for them does not mean we can't help get them our of office. We can talk to family and friends who live in there States and we have the inter-net we can use. I also remind them of Tom Daschle, Tom Foley and other. I told them it may take us while but we will gett-er-done ! ! with our money, emails and inter-net. So don't just write your Congressman but all of them from time to time. And the closer it get to election the better it works.
43 posted on 11/17/2005 10:40:04 AM PST by ducks1944 (GOD Bless the USA .)
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To: Phantom Lord
Ted Stevens? He is still a Senator? I guess he lied on the Senate Floor when he said he would resign if his precious Bridge To Nowhere was defunded.

I guess he didn't have to. Rodger Hedgcock, on the Rush Limbaugh Show today, said that Pubbie Senators simply shifted the money to a general fund for Alaska so that the state can decide to spend it on the BTN leaving Congress 'blameless.' Great to know we have such brave and upright representation isn't it?

44 posted on 11/17/2005 12:25:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: Grampa Dave

RE: Your editorial cartoon: That's about the size of it, isn't it?


45 posted on 11/17/2005 12:25:17 PM PST by GVnana
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To: GVgirl; pookie18

That great cartoon was lifted this morning from "Today's Toons 11/17/05 posted by pookie18."


46 posted on 11/17/2005 12:58:32 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: Grampa Dave; cartoonistx
That great cartoon was lifted this morning from "Today's Toons 11/17/05 posted by pookie18."

To complete the history, the cartoon was drawn by FReeper cartoonistx...one of several of his recent excellent toons!


47 posted on 11/17/2005 1:31:55 PM PST by pookie18 ((Hillary Rotten) Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: pookie18; cartoonistx

Great job by cartoonistx!


48 posted on 11/17/2005 1:47:35 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Watch the rats re Iraq in 1998: http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/111505.wmv)
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To: Rocketman
This it?
49 posted on 11/17/2005 1:57:46 PM PST by Stentor
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To: twigs

Seminar Poster -- like Rush's seminar callers -- LOL that's rich! I never thought of that.


50 posted on 11/17/2005 2:11:52 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: Stentor

Yes that be it, that be the "Definative list" that is a mite bit suspicious.


51 posted on 11/17/2005 2:13:51 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: benjamin032

They must have received a lot of phone calls and had staffers read the bloggers and the freepers.

They send our guys and gals overseas to gfight a war against barbarians and they have been so cowardly on the floor of the Senate. Warner caves in to the demoRATS demanding more war reports and Stevens wanted another Alaskan bridge!!
grrrrr


TERM LIMITS AND PUBLIC CONTROL OF REDISTRICTING ARE THE ONLY ANSWERS!!


52 posted on 11/17/2005 2:41:26 PM PST by victim soul
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To: katieanna

It's good they are finally speaking out to defend.

IT's horrific they've done NOTHING to reverse their surrender on the Floor the other day. They get no PRAISE FROM ME. I am not bought off by a few cheap words. Get your butts in gear, take that damn resolution out, hold a resolution of support for troops and this war, note in it that Our President is not a liar, drop the garbage of civility and call these lying scum they serve beside for what they are. TRAITORS.


53 posted on 11/17/2005 3:19:45 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: katieanna

WMD, WMD, WMD all we care about is WMD. “We were lied to at the beginning of this war about WMD,” so President Bush should be impeached like clinton over WMD. Do the CommucRats really believe that anyone outside of the Michael Mooreon worshipers care about WMD? Do they really think that this is their Gulf of Tonkin and Watergate rolled into one?? How braindead is the dimocrat Think-Puddle? The HilaryCare war room is proving beyond a doubt that she is exactly who we want as their standard bearer. She is a one trick donkey (apologies to self) if their ever was one. President Bush has driven them completely off the cliffs of sanity.

When you have no leaders or ideas, attack. So what if the intelligence was not 100% perfect during the 18 month rush to war? If Saddamn had given unlimited access, the intelligence would not had to be gathered by the 82nd Airborne. But to these pinheads Saddamn was a saint, only GW is to blame. After the DOJ gutting by the previous occu-drop-pants we were lucky to have anyone left besides Valarie Plame 007. But, let’s give them the WMD argument, so what? They are trying to say that this war is the same as Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. Does that make this war illegitimate? Tell that to the American people and see where that takes them. Remind them how weak the Dims have always been on security matters.

Let’s say that they had their way during Florida 2000 and the Supreme Court had allowed Gore to Steal the Election. Let’s just say that all of the Military Votes that actually made it past his hurdles had been shredded as his lawyers fought for, then was made President.

Where would we be today? Pretty simple really. There would be no Iraq war and there would have never been the “quagmire” of Trashcanistan. The most that would have happened after 911 would have been perhaps a few cruise missiles fired at some Taliban camels. Even that is highly doubtful since it was landlocked and Pakistan hated clinton/bore. Nothing at all would have been done just as the corrupt French, Rooskies & UN wanted. Nothing, nada, zip.

Now can we imagine how much safer we would be if the Taliban and Saddamn were still supporting Terrorists R Us??? They would have been planning and executing attack after attack and all Gore would have done is issued the standard we will hunt you down and kill you, yada yada yada! A complete and udderless disaster, not to mention the kindergarten lectures he would have been giving us after every attack. Heck, the bomb would have been easier to take than that lecture!

We would be living in a world where the terrorists were running free and calling the shots around the world. The world would be held hostage as a feckless President would be trying to appease these murderers while coming after any American who dared to question the Mooselip religion. The monthly bombing would only be interrupted by the next truly horrific attack that would kill thousands if not millions. The only thing our don’t ask, don’t tell Military would be doing is a meals on wheels moving from disaster to disaster. Can anyone really think that this world would be safer under that scenario? This is exactly where the Rats are trying to take us.

The anti-war crowd of today are primarily a coalition of the usual America haters with the brain rotted anti-Vietnam crowd looking for their lost glory. They are attempting to equate this war to their so called illegal war of the 70's. This is why they are obsessed with the lying about the WMD because this is their Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. Gulf of Tonkin made the case for an illegal war by LBJ and that is who they are attempting to paint President Bush. The problem is that America is not going to buy it since there are no similarities.

Nobody can say with certainty that the Intel was absolutely right or wrong. Everybody on both sides are speculating and in the end it was the President’s decision. The Rats fear President Bush will never agree to their Peace with Honor plan. He is not going to allow another Scar on America Memorial for our amazing soldiers.

What these empty headed traitors are really fighting, is the authority that was given the President of the United States. Does anyone believe that the anti war-crowd will be convinced that any war is justified. If giving 50 million enslaved people Democracy in 2 years while mortally wounding terrorism can’t convince these neo-comms nothing ever, ever, ever will.

We have the greatest military to ever march the planet and are bringing a new beginning to the Middle East. America understands this in it’s heart because it is common sense. There is no need for lying or spinning the subject for it is so simple to catch. Any politician that attacks the American sensibility and kindness is risking their own extinction. Time to throw the anchor of truth to the DinoCrats sunken beyond their necks in the quagmire of history.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


54 posted on 11/17/2005 3:22:52 PM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: katieanna

Why are they not on national TV 24 hours a day saying this, it does no good on the senate floor, the room was probably empty. It just goes in the journal.


55 posted on 11/17/2005 3:25:14 PM PST by tillacum
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To: katieanna
Here is a list of the Senate traitors' statements compiled by The Federalist Patriot:

(This Patriot Action Alert concerns the TRUTH about Iraq's WMD. Please forward this message to your list!)

On the heels of the "White House -- CIA leak" investigation, which concluded that no laws were broken (but charged one administration staffer with perjury), liberals are attempting to parlay that non-starter into a much bigger political brawl. Their charges have no substance, and are completely contrived to keep Republicans off balance through next year's midterm elections.

Sens. Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid and Dick Durbin have accused President George Bush of lying about Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction, insisting he "lied us into war." They are even floating the suggestion that he be impeached.

Here are their accusations:

"The Bush administration misrepresented and distorted the intelligence to justify a war that America should never have fought." --Ted Kennedy

"We all know the Vice President's office was the nerve center of an operation designed to sell the war and discredit those who challenged it. ... The manipulation of intelligence to sell the war in Iraq...the Vice President is behind that." --Harry Reid

"I seconded the motion Sen. Harry Reid made last week. Republicans in Congress have refused, despite repeated promises, to investigate the Bush administration's misuse of pre-war intelligence, so Senate Democrats are standing up and demanding the truth." --Dick Durbin, who recently compared U.S. troops to the Nazis and Pol Pot.

Naturally, the Democrat's media lemmings are reporting these charges as de facto truth, but there is considerable evidence that these Demo-gogues and their colleagues believed Iraq had WMD long before President George Bush came to Washington. Here is a small sample of that evidence from the Clinton years:

Bill Clinton: "If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State: "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."

Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Advisor and Classified Document Thief: "[Saddam will] use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has ten times since 1983."

Harry Reid: "The problem is not nuclear testing; it is nuclear weapons. ... The number of Third World countries with nuclear capabilities seems to grow daily. Saddam Hussein's near success with developing a nuclear weapon should be an eye-opener for us all."

Dick Durbin: "One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that...Iraq...may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."

John Kerry: "If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me."

John Edwards: "Serving on the Intelligence Committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons, it's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."

Nancy Pelosi: "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons-inspection process."

Sens. Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry in a letter to Bill Clinton: "We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

After President Bush was sworn into office in 2001, his administration was handed eight years worth of intelligence analysis and policy positions from the Clinton years -- you know, the years of appeasement when Saddam was tolerated, when opportunities to take out Osama bin Ladin were ignored, as was the presence of an al-Qa'ida terrorist cell in the U.S. -- which reared its head on 9/11.

In the weeks prior to the invasion of Iraq, Democrats, who had access to the same intelligence used by the Bush administration (much of which was compiled under the Clinton administration), were clear about the threat of Iraq's WMD capability.

Ted Kennedy: "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

John Kerry: "I will be voting to give the president of the U.S. the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security. ... Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein."

Hillary Clinton: "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile-delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including al-Qa'ida members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Carl Levin: "We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein...is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."

Al Gore: "We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

Bob Graham: "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."

For the record: Here's a partial list of what didn't make it out of Iraq before the OIF invasion: 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium, 1,700 gallons of chemical-weapon agents, chemical warheads containing the nerve agent cyclosarin, radioactive materials in powdered form designed for dispersal over population centers, artillery projectiles loaded with binary chemical agents, etc. Assuming Irag had no WMD because only small caches were recovered after Operation Iraqi Freedom began is perilously flawed logic. That, in no way, affirms what he spirited out through Iran and Syria before OIF.

So, ask Ted, Dick and Harry, what is their real agenda?

One might fairly conclude that they are willing to reduce U.S. national security to political fodder by accusing the President of the United States of "lying." Problem is, the President had no political motive for Operation Iraqi Freedom -- only a legitimate desire to fulfill the highest obligation of his office -- to defend our liberty against all threats.

Ted, Dick and Harry, on the other hand, have plenty of political motivation for their most recent antics -- and all of America should look upon these disgraceful Demo-gogues, and anyone who supports this dangerous folly, as traitorous louts.

On Veterans Day, President Bush noted: "Today our nation pays tribute to our veterans -- 25 million vets.... At this hour, a new generation of Americans is defending our flag and our freedom in the first war of this century. This war came to our shores on the morning of September 11, 2001. ... We know that they want to strike again and our nation has made a clear choice. We will confront this mortal danger to all humanity. We will not tire or rest until the War on Terror is won. ... [I]t is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began. ... We will never back down. We will never give in. We will never accept anything less than complete victory."

"Deeply irresponsible"? He is too kind.

Semper Vigilo, Paratus, et Fidelis!
Mark Alexander
Publisher, The Patriot

(...this Alert is sponsored by The Federalist Patriot...)

Founder's Quote: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --John Stuart Mill

56 posted on 11/17/2005 4:03:43 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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To: katieanna

bttt


57 posted on 11/17/2005 4:05:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: benjamin032; csmusaret; popdonnelly; Phantom Lord; Grampa Dave; Rocketman; nuconvert; iceskater; ...

Ping to post 56 -- list of pro-war, find-WMD statements by today's Senate liars.

Be sure to circulate to your ping lists and email lists.


58 posted on 11/17/2005 4:12:29 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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To: Albion Wilde

Since every body knew Saddam had WMD, and since we didn't find any, it can only mean one thing-G.W.Bush disarmed Saddam Hussein.


59 posted on 11/17/2005 4:19:24 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: csmusaret
Since every body knew Saddam had WMD, and since we didn't find any, it can only mean one thing-G.W.Bush disarmed Saddam Hussein.

D*** right!

60 posted on 11/17/2005 4:38:29 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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