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Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory
National Review Online ^ | November 16, 2005 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 11/16/2005 8:32:51 AM PST by Cautor

I wrote Monday that late last week, the Senate — after a year-and-a-half of fiddling while Rome burned — had finally acted to bar al Qaeda terrorists detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, from using the courts of the American people as a weapon in their war against the American people. Well, when it comes to the Republican-controlled Senate, such lauding is always done at one’s peril. The ink was not yet dry (or the online equivalent) on that article when our distinguished senior legislators struck another of their craven compromises.

Last week’s 49-42 margin demonstrated that the votes were there to win. Nevertheless, the chamber has now reversed itself. By a vote of 84-14, the senators resolved Tuesday that the ultimate decision about who is properly considered an “enemy combatant,” should rest with federal judges, not our military commanders who actually confront the enemy in the life-and-death of the battlefield.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, Senator Lindsey Graham chose to make common cause with Senate Democrats, led by Senator Carl Levin, who favor treating the people trying to annihilate us as if they were ordinary criminal defendants. Yes, the military commissions favored by the administration will go forward — at least for now. But the compromise would allow any prisoner who received a sentence of ten years or more of imprisonment (including death) automatically to appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington. The civilian courts will have the final say.

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To: Cautor

Not only US...but a whole lot of European and Asian countries as well....but, you wouldn't get them to admit it...except maybe England.


21 posted on 11/16/2005 9:12:37 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: Cautor

It has become abundantly clear that neither party in the Senate can be entrusted with the security of our nation.

Petty politics, blind ambition, pandering, and reciprocal back-scratching constitute daily business in "the world's greatest deliberative body."

The House isn't too far behind, with the recent stunt by the Soros-backed "Republican-moderates."

The good news is--We hired 'em, we can fire 'em.

Until the next election rolls around, I encourage all Freepers to write/call their elected representatives and express their displeasure. I've reached the point where I send my useless Pubbie senator a daily nasty-gram.

Also, all fund-raising correspondence I receive goes straight into the circular file; and I'm extremely rude to anyone who calls on behalf of the Republican Party and asks for my money.


22 posted on 11/16/2005 9:17:29 AM PST by Arm_Bears (If the people lead, the leaders will follow.)
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To: mortal19440

"We bust our asses for three elections to get a majority and this is what we get."

I am beyond discouraged by what's happening not only in the Senate, but now in the House. We're missing the Hammer's leadership there. We own the White House, Senate and House and we can't do jack sh&t except spend more money.


23 posted on 11/16/2005 9:17:34 AM PST by Cautor
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To: Cautor

Actually, I believe it is time for conservatives across America to abandon the Republican Party. America is in mortal danger. This is not Vietnam, where we can pack our bags and go home and chances are the Viet Cong would not come after us. I predicted 911, since any moron with half a brain could see it coming. With each succeeding move Bin Laden and company began more emboldened that the USA would do nothing if he took down the WTC, the Capital building and the Pentagon. And...he would have been right on the money if the Democrat Party was in power. Now, all he has to do is let the traitors in the Democrat and Republican Parties do his dirty work for him. Problem is, it's the American people that are fools. But, they too, will soon learn what defeat tastes like , and it won't be pretty. Death and terror are coming to America, thanks to our politicians and a weak and unknowing American people. I believe that the only way this country can be saved is if we create a massive political revolution that gives the American people a clear chioce in 2006 and 2008. We can no longer depend on the two major political parties. They have gone over to the enemay that is hell bent on destroying America and all who live in it. Go figure!!!


24 posted on 11/16/2005 9:17:52 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Arm_Bears

Those are all good steps and I second their use. I pretty much do the same thing, especially when I receive any contact about funding the RNC and such. One these folks become intoxicated by the power of being in Congress, they have only one thing on their minds. Staying forever.


25 posted on 11/16/2005 9:19:45 AM PST by Cautor
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

"Death and terror are coming to America, thanks to our politicians and a weak and unknowing American people."

I agree and I also feel much the same way as you do. I certainly am not motivated right now to keep supporting the RINO party. Maybe something will happen before the next election to motivate me to get out and vote.


26 posted on 11/16/2005 9:22:28 AM PST by Cautor
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To: Cautor

At least McCain and Graham didn't vote to stab Bush in the back yesterday, Allen did.


27 posted on 11/16/2005 9:29:50 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: Cautor

I am in the same boat. When is a Senator, any Senator or any House member, also going to rise and tell the American people they are playing with fire. Not one, I repeat, not one has done it. Yet, my friend, I can assure you that thousands of American women will be raped, thousands of American babies will be slaughtered, and thousands of just plain Americans will be beheaded or murdered for the kicks and fantasies of our mortal enemy. May God help these United States, neither our politicians or the American people will help themselves!!! I cannot believe this is happening. But great societies have gone down before by their own hand, so it is possible the USA is about to commit Hari Kari!!!


28 posted on 11/16/2005 9:30:01 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: loreldan

"At least McCain and Graham didn't vote to stab Bush in the back yesterday, Allen did."

I must have missed that, can you describe what happened. In the past, I supported Allen (when I lived in VA), but now have growing concerns about him. When he was running for the Senate, I attended a fund-raiser held at a large estate in eastern VA ($100 and up to get in, $1000 to have a drink with him). I finally had a chance to shake his hand and told him I hoped he kicked Robb's ass. I waited for him to smile and roger my sentiment. Instead, he looked shocked I would say such a thing.


29 posted on 11/16/2005 9:43:08 AM PST by Cautor
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To: Cautor

Yeah, here's the latest thread on it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1523130/posts


30 posted on 11/16/2005 9:45:27 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

"But great societies have gone down before by their own hand, so it is possible the USA is about to commit Hari Kari!!!"

Give that terrorists may soon obtain WMDs, they could well inflict a mortal wound on the US. Look at the costs of the Katrina mess. Then imagine what would happen if a major city is incinerated or a plague is loosed on the US. Consider what this would do to our complex society, our financial markets, our lean-just-in-time distribution system. And this is indeed a real prospect. Even so, Senators and congressmen of both political strips fiddle and pontificate trying to make political points.


31 posted on 11/16/2005 9:49:03 AM PST by Cautor
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To: Cautor

Mr. President, for once, just once, in your tour of duty as the leader of the free world PLEASE USE YOUR VETO POWER.


32 posted on 11/16/2005 9:50:22 AM PST by p. henry
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To: loreldan

Thanks, I did see a piece on this last night on the Hume show. Warner and Frist and the rest parading around claiming they did something useful instead of undercutting our troops and our national security. Allen missed the boat on this one for sure.


33 posted on 11/16/2005 9:51:23 AM PST by Cautor
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To: p. henry

"Mr. President, for once, just once, in your tour of duty as the leader of the free world PLEASE USE YOUR VETO POWER."

Maybe he's trying for the Guiness Book of Records for fewest exercises of the veto = 0. He's sinking fast and he really needs to attack and attack again his enemies.


34 posted on 11/16/2005 9:54:21 AM PST by Cautor
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To: Cautor
I waited for (Allen) to smile and roger my sentiment. Instead, he looked shocked I would say such a thing.

Forget Allen. It's time to start zeroing in on somebody with enough b@lls to say what he means and mean what he says.

Go Coburn! Go Pence!

35 posted on 11/16/2005 11:04:54 AM PST by Gritty ("I don't need not go to Baghdad to see the War On Terror–you can go to Laredo - J Culberson, R-TX)
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36 posted on 11/16/2005 11:06:35 AM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Old Seadog

Bump to your sentiment of no RINOs. But what to do with the ones we've got. We need a new "1994" revolution. Where is the next Newt Gingrich?


37 posted on 11/16/2005 11:39:00 AM PST by Cautor
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To: Cautor
Link to links, sorry about that. Worth checking out, if you have the inclination.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522803/posts?page=127#127

38 posted on 11/16/2005 11:49:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cautor

Lindsey Graham is an opportunist of the first order. He always seems to be in the Democrats back pocket.


39 posted on 11/16/2005 12:03:52 PM PST by hgro (A)
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To: Cautor

all those idiots are just courting the MSM for free air time, so everyone will recognize their mugs in 08.


40 posted on 11/16/2005 12:09:51 PM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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