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To: Fester Chugabrew; blowfish
The presence of organized matter carrying out numerous functions resulting in life and the ability to observe it is enough evidence for me, and for most people.

The problem is that this is a classic case of begging the question.

You're using your presumption in order to view the evidence as supporting your presumption. You have in no way *tested* your postulate.

235 posted on 11/16/2005 11:11:34 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

Yes, I operate with the presumption, the given, the obvious evidence, and the simple truth. Matter is organized. That implies design. It does not need to be explained away or falsifiable to be scientific. It only begs the question of those who would attribute organized matter to some other cause. What is it?


248 posted on 11/16/2005 11:34:33 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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