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Kristol: Pathetic (The me-too Republicans wimp out on Iraq)
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 15, 2005 | William Kristol

Posted on 11/15/2005 5:30:28 PM PST by RWR8189

Pathetic.

One expected no better of the Senate Democrats, who want to get out of Iraq as soon as possible, or sooner than possible--most of them don't really care--and who want to embarrass president Bush. But couldn't the Senate Republicans have stood and fought against passing an irresponsible resolution suggesting that Americans want to get out of Iraq more than we want to win?

The Republican leadership may have figured they didn't have the votes to defeat the Democratic proposal without giving their members a weaker alternative to vote for. But better to lose such a vote by a small margin than to go on record voting for a resolution that sends a signal of irresolution and weakness at precisely the time when a message of strength is most needed. After all, in precisely a month, the Iraqis will vote for their first government under the new constitution, and one thing they must weigh in their calculations is whether they can count on U.S. staying power in the fight against the terrorists. With today's vote in the Senate, the Republican leadership, apparently working hand in glove with White House staff, showed itself today to be tactically myopic and politically timid.

One hopes Republicans in the House will show more spine. One trusts that President Bush will not bend in any way to these winds of worry. One hopes that a year from now this vote is simply remembered as a minor hiccup on the way to success and victory in Iraq. But one doesn't win a war by showing weakness. And one doesn't win a political fight by half capitulating to one's opponents, and, in effect, accepting the premises of their critique.

All honor to the 13 Republican senators who stood up against the me-too, we-want-to-get-out-as-well-but-not-quite-as-quickly, Republican leadership: Bunning, Burr, Chambliss, Coburn, DeMint, Graham, Inhofe, Isakson, Kyl, McCain, Sessions, Thune, and Vitter. Let's hope their colleagues reconsider and join their ranks in the near future.

--William Kristol


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Right_in_Virginia

No, we aren't on the same side.

You are ignoring the last week of offenses by this administration, attempting to pretend it has not occured so that the subject can be turned form Allen's actions in the U.S. Senate.

I don't accept spin. I don't accept deflection. Allen is in the wrong. I will not indulge your attempts to disparage the administration when it is finally acting, to protect a Senator that is not acting properly.

That is my stance and final word on this to you.


141 posted on 11/15/2005 7:35:32 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: crazyhorse691

"My Sen(Smith-rhino,or.)just keeps digging himself a deeper hole..."

He is a member of this cabal -
http://republicanmainstreet.org/members.htm

Seriously, read about them and their mission statement.


142 posted on 11/15/2005 7:37:58 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: Zechariah11
Are you trying to spin it away from your raggety-ass senators --

No.

I'm trying to point out that the President is in deep trouble. He's losing his strongest supporters...ie: George Allen.

And, until and unless the President stands up and defends himself, I will find it difficult to convict those who chose not to stand up and defend him.

I want GWB to find his courage. When his does, the Party will be back. If he doesn't....the Party will splinter and lose all it has gained through a generation of hard, hard work.

The choice and the solution rest with the President.

143 posted on 11/15/2005 7:38:00 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Soul Seeker

The good thing to come out of this is to see what a President George Allen would do if the pressure got turned up. This has really been an eye-opener.


144 posted on 11/15/2005 7:38:48 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Soul Seeker
That is my stance and final word on this to you.

Ok. Godspeed.

Maybe you'll lift your ban when Hillary Clinton is swore in as President.

Take care.

145 posted on 11/15/2005 7:40:28 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia; Soul Seeker
Are you reading your posts? Here's from soul seeker in #141:

You are ignoring the last week of offenses by this administration, attempting to pretend it has not occured so that the subject can be turned form Allen's actions in the U.S. Senate.

146 posted on 11/15/2005 7:41:02 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: ontos-on

Kristol is ecstatic in implying erroneously that all Republicans have deserted their Commander-in-Chief...or giving the impression that they have...and portraying the President as impotent and defeated...which he most definitely is not.
This shabby "pile on" will inevitably have a powerful backlash on him and the unfaithful who mistakenly think war is waged by opinion poll.


147 posted on 11/15/2005 7:42:11 PM PST by CBart95
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To: RWR8189
All honor to the 13 Republican senators who stood up against the me-too, we-want-to-get-out-as-well-but-not-quite-as-quickly, Republican leadership: Bunning, Burr, Chambliss, Coburn, DeMint, Graham, Inhofe, Isakson, Kyl, McCain, Sessions, Thune, and Vitter. Let's hope their colleagues reconsider and join their ranks in the near future.

I've always said that Bush is safe on Iraq as long as McCain is in his corner. Once McCain leaves, you know the bottom has really fallen out on Bush's Iraq policy. The rest is just noise.

148 posted on 11/15/2005 7:44:28 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Zechariah11

Look,I've got your message:

Beat up on Allen.

Beat up on McCain.

Beat up on Rice.

Beat up on Guliani.

But never, ever, point out what GWB may need to fix.

I've got it.

Thanks.


149 posted on 11/15/2005 7:44:38 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: CBart95
Pair up with the other RINO defende on this thread.. I think he is still around.

Kristol is RIGHT today. The faithless GOP Senators are to blame for an embarrassing loss to the President..

150 posted on 11/15/2005 7:46:42 PM PST by Zechariah11 (George Allen, betrayest thou the Commander-in-Chief as soon as he leaves town?)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

No -- just your two SOB senators.


151 posted on 11/15/2005 7:48:02 PM PST by Zechariah11 (George Allen, betrayest thou the Commander-in-Chief as soon as he leaves town?)
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To: Zechariah11

Ok.

Got it.


152 posted on 11/15/2005 7:48:46 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: RWR8189
Someone who did not sell out like Frist and Allen . . .

Rudy, here's hoping you're made of sterner stuff.

153 posted on 11/15/2005 7:54:24 PM PST by Zechariah11 (George Allen, betrayest thou the Commander-in-Chief as soon as he leaves town?)
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To: Peach

IIRC, SCOTUS just gave detainees access to the federal courts; it looks to me as if Graham is trying to limit the damage.


154 posted on 11/15/2005 7:54:52 PM PST by born in the Bronx
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To: citizencon

Your #18: "et tu, George Allen? Stabbed Bush in the back?"

I believe that Allen has lost his chance at the Presidency over his votes on the WOT.

Your #19: "Glad to see Thune's name on the list of 'machos'"

I heard him talk on one of the shows late today and was very impressed.


155 posted on 11/15/2005 7:59:40 PM PST by Bush 100 Percent
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To: Bush 100 Percent
I believe that Allen has lost his chance at the Presidency over his votes on the WOT.

He lost my vote today. I'll be sure to encourage other conservatives not to vote for him.

156 posted on 11/15/2005 8:02:09 PM PST by Zechariah11 (George Allen, betrayest thou the Commander-in-Chief as soon as he leaves town?)
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To: CBart95
Kristol is ecstatic in implying erroneously that all Republicans have deserted their Commander-in-Chief...or giving the impression that they have...and portraying the President as impotent and defeated...which he most definitely is not. This shabby "pile on" will inevitably have a powerful backlash on him and the unfaithful who mistakenly think war is waged by opinion poll.

Exactly right.

157 posted on 11/15/2005 8:02:30 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Zechariah11

I'm still waiting.

....backup Kristol's above statement with wording from the resolution...

158 posted on 11/15/2005 8:09:11 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bahbah

He is our junior Senator in Alabama, but he is by far our best. Shelby is a converted Rat and I don't trust him.


159 posted on 11/15/2005 8:11:41 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: FreeReign

Sorry, buddy, I don't have the time or energy to explain what is very obvious to only a few RINO defenders. Going to bed. Nighty night.


160 posted on 11/15/2005 8:11:58 PM PST by Zechariah11 (George Allen, betrayest thou the Commander-in-Chief as soon as he leaves town?)
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