Posted on 11/15/2005 5:30:28 PM PST by RWR8189
Pathetic.
One expected no better of the Senate Democrats, who want to get out of Iraq as soon as possible, or sooner than possible--most of them don't really care--and who want to embarrass president Bush. But couldn't the Senate Republicans have stood and fought against passing an irresponsible resolution suggesting that Americans want to get out of Iraq more than we want to win?
The Republican leadership may have figured they didn't have the votes to defeat the Democratic proposal without giving their members a weaker alternative to vote for. But better to lose such a vote by a small margin than to go on record voting for a resolution that sends a signal of irresolution and weakness at precisely the time when a message of strength is most needed. After all, in precisely a month, the Iraqis will vote for their first government under the new constitution, and one thing they must weigh in their calculations is whether they can count on U.S. staying power in the fight against the terrorists. With today's vote in the Senate, the Republican leadership, apparently working hand in glove with White House staff, showed itself today to be tactically myopic and politically timid.
One hopes Republicans in the House will show more spine. One trusts that President Bush will not bend in any way to these winds of worry. One hopes that a year from now this vote is simply remembered as a minor hiccup on the way to success and victory in Iraq. But one doesn't win a war by showing weakness. And one doesn't win a political fight by half capitulating to one's opponents, and, in effect, accepting the premises of their critique.
All honor to the 13 Republican senators who stood up against the me-too, we-want-to-get-out-as-well-but-not-quite-as-quickly, Republican leadership: Bunning, Burr, Chambliss, Coburn, DeMint, Graham, Inhofe, Isakson, Kyl, McCain, Sessions, Thune, and Vitter. Let's hope their colleagues reconsider and join their ranks in the near future.
--William Kristol
No, we aren't on the same side.
You are ignoring the last week of offenses by this administration, attempting to pretend it has not occured so that the subject can be turned form Allen's actions in the U.S. Senate.
I don't accept spin. I don't accept deflection. Allen is in the wrong. I will not indulge your attempts to disparage the administration when it is finally acting, to protect a Senator that is not acting properly.
That is my stance and final word on this to you.
"My Sen(Smith-rhino,or.)just keeps digging himself a deeper hole..."
He is a member of this cabal -
http://republicanmainstreet.org/members.htm
Seriously, read about them and their mission statement.
No.
I'm trying to point out that the President is in deep trouble. He's losing his strongest supporters...ie: George Allen.
And, until and unless the President stands up and defends himself, I will find it difficult to convict those who chose not to stand up and defend him.
I want GWB to find his courage. When his does, the Party will be back. If he doesn't....the Party will splinter and lose all it has gained through a generation of hard, hard work.
The choice and the solution rest with the President.
The good thing to come out of this is to see what a President George Allen would do if the pressure got turned up. This has really been an eye-opener.
Ok. Godspeed.
Maybe you'll lift your ban when Hillary Clinton is swore in as President.
Take care.
You are ignoring the last week of offenses by this administration, attempting to pretend it has not occured so that the subject can be turned form Allen's actions in the U.S. Senate.
Kristol is ecstatic in implying erroneously that all Republicans have deserted their Commander-in-Chief...or giving the impression that they have...and portraying the President as impotent and defeated...which he most definitely is not.
This shabby "pile on" will inevitably have a powerful backlash on him and the unfaithful who mistakenly think war is waged by opinion poll.
I've always said that Bush is safe on Iraq as long as McCain is in his corner. Once McCain leaves, you know the bottom has really fallen out on Bush's Iraq policy. The rest is just noise.
Look,I've got your message:
Beat up on Allen.
Beat up on McCain.
Beat up on Rice.
Beat up on Guliani.
But never, ever, point out what GWB may need to fix.
I've got it.
Thanks.
Kristol is RIGHT today. The faithless GOP Senators are to blame for an embarrassing loss to the President..
No -- just your two SOB senators.
Ok.
Got it.
Rudy, here's hoping you're made of sterner stuff.
IIRC, SCOTUS just gave detainees access to the federal courts; it looks to me as if Graham is trying to limit the damage.
Your #18: "et tu, George Allen? Stabbed Bush in the back?"
I believe that Allen has lost his chance at the Presidency over his votes on the WOT.
Your #19: "Glad to see Thune's name on the list of 'machos'"
I heard him talk on one of the shows late today and was very impressed.
He lost my vote today. I'll be sure to encourage other conservatives not to vote for him.
Exactly right.
I'm still waiting.
....backup Kristol's above statement with wording from the resolution...
He is our junior Senator in Alabama, but he is by far our best. Shelby is a converted Rat and I don't trust him.
Sorry, buddy, I don't have the time or energy to explain what is very obvious to only a few RINO defenders. Going to bed. Nighty night.
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