Posted on 11/15/2005 11:31:36 AM PST by beaureguard
Correct. Both when I lived in the Bronx and in Brooklyn, I saw people who drove brand new, pimped out SUVs, using EBT/Food Stamp card when they went to the supermarket.
"What do they call it when Latinos flee an area? Hispanic Panic?"
Migration of workers doing jobs Americans don't want to do
What you described sounds familiar. I live in a small neighborhood that is nestled between a huge cemetery, a large hospital and the commercial zones of an in-city highway. We have condos, the apartments i live in, another apt building that is nearly complete and an 'assisted housing' complex.
This is Seattle, so maybe the problems aren't AS bad, but what problems this neighborhood does have (aside from an occasional party where someone talks loud in the parking lot after leaving) come from that low income housing.
Just the other day I had to tell these girls to move from the drive-way of the parking lot not only because it was dangerous but they were jumping rope and making noise. And I had 10 year old girls trying to defend their actions and talking back (saying people from our complex go over there, LOL.) MOVE!
All during the summer I had to eject them for coming into the pool and making a large amount of noise while being there. Once should have been enough, but you have to threaten them with the police to get them to stop. At least that is somewhat minor in comparison.
We had a shootout on that street between two people and have had other incidents, like one where police blocked off the road and were searching for a suspect who'd attempted to hit a cop with his car.
The sad part is, people DO work there (there is a max income but also a minimum) and most of the noise you hear from there is just kids playing outside.
But while the degree of our problems is small in comparison, it just gives you an idea of how bad it must be in the rest of the country.
"The gang activity is frightening, the shootings are happening on a regular basis now, it's downright scary."
How many shootings are you talking about? Violent crime is DOWN sharply in California, compared to the 1990s and 1980s.
They're already there, I'm afraid. But for illegals, they're the "good" type - hard working and contructive. Besides, we already had some "white trash." A few illegals won't make much of a difference.
Yet.
Do you live by the Yesler Projects?
How many? I don't count them, but I read about them on a weekly basis, along with knife attacks, wife beatings, robberies, carjacking, child molesting, hit and run, car chases, you name it, and in the L.A. and Orange County areas most of the perpetrators listed in the local newspapers have hispanic names.
If you think violent crime is "sharply down", you don't live in southern California.
No, I'm in North Seattle. This place isn't terrible, it's just that what problems the area has had seem to come from there. I'm interested in seeing who moves into the new apartment building.
"If you think violent crime is "sharply down", you don't live in southern California."
Actually, I do. Crime's been trending down since the 1980s, and the trend is continuing downward. What IS up is the coverage.
The change in demographics has been pretty startling out here, but it dosen't even hold a candle to Gwinnett.
Utah and Idaho seem nice...8^)
I'm happy for you that you actually believe that. My personal observations differ.
Hispanic Panic?
Spanish vanish?
Spanish fly..
ROTF!
"I'm happy for you that you actually believe that."
I'm going by FBI crime statistics; what's your source?
"My personal observations differ."
Ah, question answered. You are confusing your particular experience--filtered through your worldview and what you choose to pay attention to--with general reality.
Actually, murder rates in the LA area were much worse in the crack wars of the 1980s and early 1990s. Other crimes may be a different story. Lets also not forget that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is a CRIME itself.
I don't have much faith in "FBI crime statistics" when the subject is illegal immigration. We'll just have to agree to disagree, the American way.
Nasty stuff! Those wars are still going on. San Bernardino County is meth heaven now. The way those tweakers live is beyond belief, and that community of tweakers is definitely diversified! I feel so sorry for their kids who they're raising in that environment.
San Berdoo was biker gang and meth land back when my uncle was working there in the 1970s. Why would anyone want to live in the Inland Empire anyway? Its not like the quality of life is really any better than LA or Orange Counties.
Several others have answered your question; 15 to 35 miles from Five Points (downtown Atlanta) is the approximate range. But the distance from downtown is pretty much a moot point; few in Gwinnett, and fewer still who have moved farther out, work or shop in downtown or midtown Atlanta. In fact, many rarely venture inside I-285 for any reason. Increasingly, metro Atlantans commute suburb-to-suburb. The more salient measurement is the distance of Gwinnett from the I-285 beltline: about 2 miles at the closest approach, 20-something at Gwinnett's farthest reaches.
Fascinating article, Beau; thanks for posting it. What's really mostly going on here is the continued explosive growth of the Atlanta metro area. What was rural 10 years ago is now exurban; what was exurban is now suburban; what was suburban is now urban. It's happening everywhere (particularly in the faster growing, and fortunately mostly "red" states), but it's especially startling in the Atlanta area. Wasn't it just yesterday that people questioned the sanity of the developers of Gwinnett Place Mall, so far out in the boonies?
I live in Cobb. I can drive to downtown Atlanta in about 20 minutes, in non-rush hours. I love Cobb county. Our area is safe and clean, and our city runs its own schools, which are outstanding.
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