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Bloomberg Considering New Commuter Tax?
1010wins ^ | 11/15/05

Posted on 11/15/2005 7:44:27 AM PST by finnman69

There might be a new drive in New York City to tax suburban commuters. At a press conference in Queens on Monday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg stated that suburban property values rise and fall on the city's success.

"Property values are up because of their proximity to the city," Bloomberg said. "If the city weren't safe, their property values wouldn't be as high ..."

City officials said the mayor may be posturing for state and city budget talks starting next month.

New York State legislators have previously rejected attemps by the city to tax commuters.

Mayor Bloomberg is expected to update the city's financial estimates in a couple of weeks.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; commutertax
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He gets a 20 point win and goes for taxes right away? I want to be sick.

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http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-economy-newyorkcity.html

NYC Mayor Relaunches Bid to Tax Suburban Commuters

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Monday relaunched his bid to reinstate a tax on some 800,000 commuters that state legislators axed in 1999.

The Republican mayor, who also pushed to revive the tax when he campaigned for his first term in 2001, estimated that New York City's 8.1 million residents send the state $12 billion more a year in tax revenues than they get back.

The commuter tax, formally set at half a percent of income, used to give the city $400 million to $500 million a year.

``We really should in all fairness get some help,'' Bloomberg told reporters, asserting that suburban dwellers owe their rising home values to New York City's vibrant economy, low crime rates and improving schools.

``What's more, an awful lot of people come into this city to work,'' he added. These commuters benefit from city services, such as its mass transit system, Bloomberg said.

But political experts said the mayor faces an uphill battle partly because the city's revenue outlook has brightened.

Though New York City faces a $4.5 billion gap in next year's budget, it should rake in an extra $400 million in tax revenues in the first quarter of its current fiscal year.

The state legislature must approve any city tax hikes or cuts except for its property tax, which this year should raise $12.5 billion. Democratic and Republican legislators killed the commuter tax in a battle for a Senate seat in a suburban county just north of the city.

A spokesman for Republican Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno of Rensselaer, said the Senate had no plans to reinstate the commuter tax. ``That (stand) has not changed since it was first eliminated six years ago,'' added spokesman Mark Hansen.

A spokesman for Democratic Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, who represents Manhattan, had no immediate comment.

Bloomberg said: ``It's going to be a difficult political lift, we know that.'' He suggested a new link between the commuter tax and raising money for mass transit improvements that would benefit both city residents and suburbanites.

``Hopefully, this will be part of a package to address the issue of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, the mass transit regional security for the whole area,'' Bloomberg said.

The MTA needs funds to connect the Long Island Rail Road to midtown's Grand Central Terminal, link John F. Kennedy International Airport to Lower Manhattan, and build an East Side Second Avenue subway.

The city has cut how much it gives the MTA, which runs its subways, buses and commuter rail lines. The agency now gets 0.375 percent of sales tax revenues, pushing the city-state sales tax rate up to 8.375 percent.

1 posted on 11/15/2005 7:44:28 AM PST by finnman69
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He gets a 20 point win and goes for taxes right away?

And your surprised? He's a socialist. New York deserves him.


2 posted on 11/15/2005 7:47:10 AM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: finnman69

He's not called Bloominidiot for nothing.


3 posted on 11/15/2005 7:48:32 AM PST by Gabz
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To: finnman69

I'm not from NY but I know people who are. Those folks, none of whom live in the city, consistently lament to me the drain on the rest of the state that city is.

Bloomers sure is gonna make them happy with this move. Hear that sucking sound?


4 posted on 11/15/2005 7:48:33 AM PST by American_Centurion (A liberal is a socialist who isn't quite willing to get blood on his hands yet. -KarlInOhio)
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People are still living in NYC and voting for socialists. All that means is they aren't being taxed enough. I say raise em higher.
5 posted on 11/15/2005 7:50:02 AM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: finnman69
No! This CAN'T be true! Bloomie is a 'Pubbie!!

Oh, wait...
6 posted on 11/15/2005 7:50:16 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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I can actually see this knowing full well Toronto (where I live) is watching how it will go over.

I've been in Athens and London where a similar program is underway. These are aging cities whose infrastructure has not seen appropriate investment in decades. You can't increase business tax or business will move out of the urban core. You can only increase property tax so far, as many people are pushed out of their homes already by real estate values and the taxes linked to same. So the ones to get hit are the commuters. The rationale is they use the urban core without giving anything back.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm only saying there are few alternatives. It does go far to relieving congestion in the city core.


7 posted on 11/15/2005 7:51:04 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: finnman69
Another RINOcrat at work. The republican party no longer exists for conservatives. It has been hijacked, just as the democratic party was, by liberals.
8 posted on 11/15/2005 7:51:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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What a freaking joke... Not even mentioning my 16K / year property tax bill, it cost me $500/month just for the privilege of working in Manhattan (parking at train station,train pass, metro card ...) This will accomplish the same thing it did last time, drive business out of the city. Some people will never get it.
9 posted on 11/15/2005 7:53:15 AM PST by NYleatherneck
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NY also wants to tax telecommuters.

I see a boom for New Jersey.

10 posted on 11/15/2005 7:54:23 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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This type of tax is one of the things that drove business to Jersey City, Newark, and Westchester.


11 posted on 11/15/2005 7:56:32 AM PST by NYleatherneck
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Oh, you should have seen it here a few weeks ago. Many were defending Bloomberg and planning to vote for him because the other guy was a democrat. Enjoy another four years of this nitwit, NY.


12 posted on 11/15/2005 7:57:47 AM PST by mysterio
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"These commuters benefit from city services, such as its mass transit system, Bloomberg said."

And how do they benefit from mass transit?

You mean they ride free?

Of course not. They have to PAY to ride.

Some 'benefit'.


13 posted on 11/15/2005 7:59:35 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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"If the city weren't safe, their property values wouldn't be as high ..."

Hmmm, I thought the property values were high because people want to live out of the city because the city isn't all that safe. Seems to me, if the city were safer, the property values wouldn't be as high.

14 posted on 11/15/2005 7:59:49 AM PST by VRWCmember (hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative, and loaded with vitriol about everything liberal.)
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Why doesn't he just raise the city tax on cigarettes to $1,000/pack or the city tax on gasoline to $1,000/gallon? Doesn't he understand simple economics?


15 posted on 11/15/2005 8:00:10 AM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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reinstate a tax on some 800,000 commuters that state legislators axed in 1999.

And why did leglisator axe 800,000 commuters?

16 posted on 11/15/2005 8:00:50 AM PST by VRWCmember (hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative, and loaded with vitriol about everything liberal.)
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To: RetiredArmy

The rinos goal is to anger conservative voters so they can take ovet the whole party.

We must not throw good conservatives like Mike Pence away because of rinos like Bloomberg.


Why do good conservatives get punished because of the actions of rinos. We need to keep the good conservatives and kick the rinos out of the party.


17 posted on 11/15/2005 8:04:28 AM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: LIConFem

Like I have been saying in my posts all along , he is left of moveon.org and a tax and spend democrat in repubs clothing


18 posted on 11/15/2005 8:04:55 AM PST by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win there phony polls.)
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To: finnman69
There is apparently a movement in New York to allow non-citizens (both legal and illegal) to vote on the grounds that they pay taxes. Well, people who don't live in New York but work there also pay taxes. Should those commuters get to vote in New York elections, too?
19 posted on 11/15/2005 8:05:30 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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Yeah I noticed that. More people would live in the city IF they did not have to pay $500,000 for a studio apartment with schools that are garbage.


20 posted on 11/15/2005 8:06:09 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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