Posted on 11/15/2005 5:48:00 AM PST by oldtimer2
Voting against every incumbent will probably give us a Democrat legislature, but only for 2 years, and we will have given everyone a powerful lesson.
I bet. Sure. One judge ousted and they're "shaking in their boots?"
We should have a branch of governement that is drafted by lottery from among the common people.
An anti incumbent mood is probably one reason why Santorum is lagging in the polls.
"Politicians should be changed regularly, like diapers, and for the same reason,"
This is a Ronald Reagan quote.
"We should have a branch of governement that is drafted by lottery from among the common people." - Fester Chugabrew
And the "common people" chosen wouldn't steal as much? Get real.
Journalists know absolutely nothing of history.
Well, I reckon the whole world is open for anyone to steal.
It's apparent that not only are we PA-ians being ripped off by their salaries and other perks, but also by the NUMBER of leaches currently attached to our veins.
How do we go about reducing the size of the legislature? Petitions for a state referendum? Are there any groups already working on this? How can us common people help with this or get such a movement going?
"Well, I reckon the whole world is open for anyone to steal." - Fester Chugabrew
I apologize for my previous curt comment.
The problem is not so much who's in government as it is the size of government. Consistent with your response, there are two types of theft: governmental and private. We tolerate government to protect us from private theft, but the government itself can grow so large that it becomes the greater threat to its citizens property. The correct size of government would minimize total thievery, i.e., the sum of governmental and private theft.
Right now, as I type, I am listening to Rep. Veon, of Beaver County, on the Mike Pintek Show, (KDKA-AM) in Pittsburgh. He was the only no vote to the repeal.
Paraphrasing...he represents 60,000 people...Pintek mentions to Veon that Beaver county overwhelming voted NO to the two judges...Veon stands he 'stands by his convictions.' 'His parents taught him to stand by his convictions.' 'He (Veon) has been in office for 21 years...he sees no irony in his constituents voting against the raise.' This guy is unreal!!!
We have the largest, most expensive legislature in the US. The question that needs to be asked over, and over, is what do we (PA) get for this money? My opinion...not much.
I will keep listening and add follow up posts...
No need for a constitutional convention to reduce the size of the legislature...He (Veon) would not support a bill to reorganize the size of our state government. Pintek is pointing out that Ohio and Illinios (similar rural/metro area states) have smaller/less expensive governments...Veon is standing firm that NO REFORM IS NEEDED IN PA!!!
Hmmm, do you suppose this is the "Courage!" Dan Rather was always talking about?
LOL!
Progress in Pennsylvania...slot machines that we don't yet have.
Well, I for one feel better...I think I'll phone my college age kids and tell them to forget the education...cocktail waitressing will be their future.
Get mad and stay mad PA...we deserve better!
My point is that those who currently occupy legislative offices are in a position to feed their own greed "legally." No one in those positions is immune to acting out of a desire 1.) to hold power, and 2.) do "favors" as a means of doing so. Guess I am disillusioned by, for example, the mafia's hold on politics. Would like to see people drafted to serve, and given a base pay rate not subject to change, or perhaps based upon the median income.
But, the process of drafting a legislative body would also be tainted. I just don't see much hope for honest government.
Veon is a died in the wool socialist. I listen to him on WHP in H'burg, and some of the things he says just reeks with arrogance.
You'd better believe this isn't going to go away....
How dare a group of people, elected by WE THE PEOPLE, think they can raise their pay without our ok????
I would rather vote for a RAT for two years, just to get rid of the RINO that was elected to do WHAT WE THE PEOPLE WANTED THEM TO DO...at least for two years, we know what we get from a RAT...
They should be shaking in their boots, we aren't thru yet...
Mr. Perzel, although he might not realize it, has something in common with immigrant workers ... and that is, like immigrant workers, his job is a temporary one. I will vote against every incumbent, regardless of party ... and as a previously poster said, he or she will only be around for two years if things don't change.
Now they're trying to raise the real estate transfer tax as well. What is all this money for (here comes the sarcasm) if we don't have the most expensive and corrupt legislature in the country ?
We need all incumbents out of the legislature, Fast Eddie out of the governor's office, and a smaller, part-time legislature like other states.
Reagan plagiarized a lot, nearly as much as MLK or Biden.
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