MAN ON DOG? (Lawmakers move to lower penalty for bestiality … seriously)

The Weekly DIG ^ | 11/14/2005 | PAUL MCMORROW

[Rutles4Ever]

More than two and a half years ago, the nation laughed as pro-family crusader Rick Santorum predicted the consequences of legalized gay marriage: If man-on-man marriage was sanctified, man-on-child and man-on-dog unions might not be far behind.

Those who jeered Santorum were silenced last Tuesday. Man-on-dog isn’t legal just yet, but if the Massachusetts State Legislature has its way, it might be soon. On November 1, cheerleading for bestiality was just one of a string of stunning pieces of legislation that converged on the legislature’s judiciary committee in a bizarre, post-Halloween orgy. The imminent collapse of the state cannot be far behind.

Sponsored by Senators Cynthia Creem and Robert O’Leary, and Representatives Michael Festa and David Linsky, the bestiality measure was buried in a packaged assault on morality, disguised as “An Act Relative to Archaic Crimes.” The bill would strike down several sections of the current penal code criminalizing adultery, fornication and the advertisement of abortion. It also repeals what appears to be a sodomy statute forbidding “abominable and detestable crime against nature, either with mankind or with a beast.”

Archaic, indeed.

The new law would continue to forbid “a sexual act on an animal,” but reduce possible penalties for committing such a crime, making it decidedly less illegal. Whereas the old law punished doggie-diddling and the like with hard time (a maximum sentence of 20 years) in state prison, the new measure would give activist judges the option of slapping perps with a mere two and a half years in plush local jails, or even letting zoophiliacs walk with a $5,000 fine.

How badly has Massachusetts’ moral compass suffered since dudes started honeymooning with dudes? Not one legislator, nor a single member of the God-fearing public, appeared before the judiciary committee to denounce the proposed changes. But then again, who has time to worry about bestiality when teenagers are shoplifting and buying NyQuil?

Though presumably more than willing to lower penalties for crimes against nature, Rep. Linsky demanded the judiciary committee get tough on the real criminals—mall thieves. It turns out that if shopping bags are lined with duct tape, any merchandise inside can be snuck past security tag sensors undetected. One shoplifting ring, Linsky testified, had recently been busted in Natick with $47,000 in stolen goods. Linsky’s bill would criminalize the possession of duct-tape bags and other shoplifting tools in malls, punishing offenders with up to two years in the clink and a $1,000 fine.

Cold medicine, it appears, is also a greater threat to society than bestiality, as Falmouth Rep. Matthew Patrick denounced NyQuil and codeine, but remained silent about barnyard romance. Patrick’s bill would criminalize the sale of “cough syrup or a cold remedy containing alcohol or codeine … to any person under the age of 18.” Such medicine “wreaks a lot of havoc on young people,” Patrick argued.

And the shoplifting and NyQuil bills were two of the tamer legislative initiatives before the committee; the rest of the docket amounted to a clearinghouse of insanity.

Up for consideration was a measure, sponsored by Southie’s Jack Hart, to ban the advertisement of fireworks; a bill banning the sale of laser pointers to minors; a push to revamp the way the state punishes graveyard vandals; an examination of how to combat the epidemic of drunken riots; new punishments for drivers who steal gas; and—our personal favorite—a bid to make criminally liable anyone who knowingly allows their telephone to be used “repeatedly, for the sole purpose of harassing, annoying or molesting [another] person … or for the purpose of repeatedly using indecent or obscene language to that person or his family.”

Hopefully, with those problems solved, we’ll all be able to marry our dogs and live in peace.

[GOP_Thug_Mom]

Seriously... Does anyone really think screwing a dog deserves a 20 yr sentence?

I can't believe anyone would even think that, let alone say it! Unless, of course, they thought it was an okay-thing to do...

[DirtyHarryY2K]

(BARF) I'd read part of an article (may have been this one)about this already. Goes to show that we have some real sick folks in charge, or they're asleep at the switch.. I'm inclined to vote for "sick".

[BlackElk]

If I am not already on your ping list, please add me. Thanks for everything you do here. Move East of where you are before Nevada becomes beachfront property.

[BlackElk]

Or ancient Sodom or ancient Gomorrah before the angels did their work!

[libertylass]

Oh Come On!!! If a person is raping a dog or cat or gerbil, for that matter, they have to be pretty twisted. Think about it the scenario in your mind for two seconds. The animal would be in great pain and crying out from that pain. Maybe that's funny to you, but I don't think you'd be laughing if you were actually witnessing it.

20 years is just long enough and I would consider my tax dollars going to a better cause than benefits to illegals, for example. I prefer innocent animals having rights to MANY humans having more rights.

Anyway, the stats show that those who abuse animals (who actually die from being raped, by the way) rarely stop there. They have other mental twists and turns that affect children too.

[pankot]

Man's best friend.

[little jeremiah]

Why were the quotes off topic? We were discussing morality. I brought in some quotes supporting my point of view. Some founders of the this country, and some other thinkers.

Not only not off topic, but agreeing with my position; that is, that morality is absolute. If morality is whatever any individual speculates about, then society quickly becomes a dog eat dog, might makes right anarchy. Why? Because one person's morality is someone else's bestiality. And if those bestiophiles don't like that other people disapprove or even prevent their sexual flings (say, with MY dog, for instance), then if said bestiophile has more money or a position of authority, he will force his immorality on me.

As is happening, right now, via hate crimes/hate speech laws in other countries. And shaking the gates here.

So called "moral relativity" just means that some people want to call immorality morality. Just photo negative values. Not relative at all, that's just a smokescreen. And if someone objects that moral absolutes are religious based and therefore wrong/unconstitutional or whatever, every religion in the world has basically the same moral absolutes. They are indeed universal. And without promoting them, our once great country will become totalitarian in a couple of generations.

[little jeremiah]

Do you want on the Homosexual Agenda pinglist or the Moral Absolutes Pinglist? I thought you were on one of them at least. I'll check.

Freepmail coming your way.

[little jeremiah]

Bestiophiles shouldn't get 20 years. They should face exectution.

[little jeremiah]

Sick slash evil.

[gidget7]

Equal is not always same. And homosexual marriage most certainly does destroy society. As with any number of other issues of morality, if you dumb down one, the rest are as well. And further, I doubt the good people of MA who have taken their kids out of public school, some at great expense, or those who have fled this deviant sewer pit with a stench that is nauseating, would agree with you!

[libertylass]

I completely agree. Deviancy is deviancy is deviancy. Being targeted for desensitization to this deviancy doesn't make it any less deviant. I don't think the male reproductive organ was meant to go into places it's being put.

[stacytec]

I had a debate with a guy on a message board about this very topic. I fell into a logical fallacy thinking that you can equate children and animals on the same terms when you really can't. The people who desire animals, simply desire animals. Its the nature of their 'condition', it doesn't make them pedophiles. You can leave them alone with kids but you may think twice about leaving them alone with Rover. (ick!)

Also, there is a difference between zoophilia and bestiality which I won't get into on this board for the sake of decorum but its something that punched holes in my theory about animal cruelty and bestiality. Its something I wish I could unlearn.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

When I boil it all down I find that all objections to homosexuality and gay marriage are of two types: 'that's yucky' and 'it's against my religion'. Neither of those carries any weight with me, and neither should be the basis for government action.

The sodomarriage issue isn't about "Consenting adults" or "bedroom privacy" or "individual or civil or legal rights" like the advocates of homosexual marriage dishonestly and vehemently insist.

"Same sex Marriage" is the "Trojan horse" method of attack by homosexual activists and advocacy groups in the effort to legitimize homosexual behavior in the courts and by legislation. Should homosexual marriage be legalized then by judicial fiat homosexuality would be legitimized across the board. This means that school aged children by law would be taught that homosexual behavior is a "safe" and "normal" alternative "sexual lifestyle" choice and by law parents will have no grounds to object (regardless of the negative spiritual, moral, psychological, biological, and medical consequences) IOW unconditional approval and forced acceptance of homosexuality, kowtow to the gaystoppo or else be hauled of to the gulag to be reeducated.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

In Massachusetts, being in the doghouse takes on a whole new meaning...

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

DIdn't they say once that this is OK so long as the animals give their consent?

How do you figure that one out? One woof = yes; two = no?

[gidget7]

Ah ha, and therein lies part of the reason for digging up and rewriting this law, by the perv. "If a person is raping a dog or cat or gerbil, for that matter, they have to be pretty twisted.""

What was that about homosexuals and gerbils? Did anyone else catch that?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Twenty years for doggy diddling? Yes, that's too much.

Would YOU want some sick, dog-f***ing barbarian in your neighborhood after a mere 2.5 years?

[gidget7]

" I don't think the male reproductive organ was meant to go into places it's being put."

Not to mention any number of other pass times the deviant culture enjoys. All are abusive and risk health and life.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"Oh...Well, that's different then."

[PAUSE]

"Never mind..."