Posted on 11/14/2005 5:12:54 AM PST by jodiluvshoes
In a remarkably odd statement this past week, the Vatican has issued a stout defence of Charles Darwin!
In fact Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture said that "if the Bible were read correctly" that the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible."
"The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator".
He went on to advocate that the idea of creation is a theological one, while the substance of origins is a scientific one and that Catholics should "know" how science sees such things so as to "understand better."
(Excerpt) Read more at muscleheadrevolution.com ...
I believe God gave us the freedom to pick and choose. I also believe that within most of those "200 different denominations" there is a central and essential core of Truth. The churches that Paul wrote to all had many differences too. Some of them very distinct. But the one thing they shared was the knowledge that they were saved by Christ. With that knowledge at their core, most of the differences were otherwise irrelevant. As are many of the arguments about who is right and who is wrong, who was first and who came later, etc, etc, etc. As someone else pointed out earlier in this thread, such arguments among Christians make Satan very happy.
Should have specified "200 in the US". Yes, there's probably more, plus blends of Christianity with other religions, like Santeria and Mandeism.
>The Catholic Church is not evangelical.. it does not teach that the bible is 100% literal, and never has<
You and several others keep talking as if Protestants consider the Bible to be 100% literal.I know of no denominations that make this claim.
Seriously, do you really think evangelical christians/IDrs are out to get conservatism? I mean really, do you actually think that?
No need. Even with your Biblical homilies, I can see that you are one who is vision impaired.
He has a limited imagination, apparently. You'd probably see a LOT of naked couples in a garden with a snake in the La-La-Land of Fruits & Nuts, Los Angeles and San Francisco (20th century Sodom and Gomorah).
But seriously, if anyone could look around this world even today and NOT see evil, the results of Satan (the snake), they would probably be a liberal who can't recognize reality, much LESS truth. Adam and Eve, while super-intelligent, were also INNOCENT of all sin. They didn't KNOW about it. That's what Satan, in the form of a snake or whatever, brought to humans. Satan tempted them with the knowledge of evil and sin. It was a supernatural event then, just as it is supernatural NOW when an innocent child is tempted or corrupted. But I guess most leftists/socialists are just too 'sophisticated' to believe in the concept of good and evil. However....I've noticed, they ALL seem to be 'into' the supernatural. Judging by all the supernatural-based movies and tv shows that permeate the airways, they'd HAVE to be into it. Cause it sure as hell isn't the Christians that are eating that crap up.
I agree you with you there.
Somewhere I heard around 11,000. I imagine there are a lot of branches of Islam too. There were a lot of different Bhuddist sects that I saw while I was in Korea.
I didn't say Protestant, I said evangelical.
So does that mean that Orthodox Jews who read the Bible in Hebrew agree with you on the literal 6 days of Creation?
BTW. Do you read Hebrew?
I got a two-by-four in mine someone can borrow.
Evangelicals are Protestant.Duh!
I wear contacts, but I can still see enough to drink the homiligized milk.
What I don't agree with is the impression created by the article, and particularly the headline, that the Catholic Church has officially declared Darwin's theory to be true. What has happened, as it has many times before, is that a Catholic has observed that the theory of evolution (unless it's paired with materialist dogma) does not conflict with the Catholic Faith. Nothing new here. It's the attempt to make it into a big news story that's dishonest.
That's odd, I always though it was Bill Buckley (Catholic), Ayn Rand (atheist) and Hayek (unknown, but not likely ID/Creationist) who really put the intellectual energy into the conservative movement. I have certainly seen some truly intelligent evangelicals (would count Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham here), but the conservative movement's central ideas have no need for straight-up Genesis creationism.
Out of curiosity, I did a search and came up with this link:
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a120.htm
Quote: “Also, according to the United Nations statistics there were over 23,000 competing and often contradictory denominations”
Read through the article. Numbers vary somewhat between sources but it really boggles the mind.
I said nothing about "evangelical christians". Please don't put words in my mouth. I said "ID/Creationists".
Against all commonsense they keep repeating ID/Creationist Lie again and again. Either they are, as Lenin said "useful idiots" and innocently repeat the Lie or they actually are knowing accomplices in the Lie, in which case they are Evil. Either way, they certainly are driving a wedge into the heart of Conservatism and I will not see this site marginalized by the repitition of the Lie. I will raise my voice every time I see the Lie repeated.
....I mean really, do you actually think that?....
I believe as Jefferson did that the imposition of a Lie is Evil:
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
~Taken from a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800.
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