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Curfew fails to stop French riot (Scorecard du jour)
BBC UK ^ | 13 Nov 2005 | BBC News

Posted on 11/13/2005 6:05:57 AM PST by timsbella

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To: timsbella

"Double secret probation" didn't work, huh? Maybe the French should let these Mooslim hoodlums have a toga party.


41 posted on 11/13/2005 7:12:12 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: timsbella

Finally some good news for new car manufacturing! Keep those fires burning boys! A new Citroen for every one!!


42 posted on 11/13/2005 7:12:48 AM PST by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: timsbella

"More than 370 cars were burned overnight, down from 502 the previous night. A further 212 people were arrested."

Monsieur Dufus, Vice Chairman of the Internal Department of Surrender said, "Hmmm. 370 cars a night. We can live with that on a permanent basis. Maybe it will reduce the need for street lights."


43 posted on 11/13/2005 7:16:04 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

"Gee...in a month or so, if this keeps up, there will be no more cars left in France."

Maybe, it's their way to stop global warming. You think?


44 posted on 11/13/2005 7:18:54 AM PST by wizr (I fear not death. Christ lives.)
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To: USAConstitution
Yeah you'r right freeangel, actually is a massive surrender. Thx for the explicitation about pictures A new one for all of yours. Because i hate probably more chirac and right traitors than communists "Welcome to FR. Hope your car is ok." My car is ok because i have a garage. Only poor people who live on "banlieus" are affected in fact. Bizarrely, "BMW", "Mercedes" or other "big cars" haven't this kind of problem. Well, who have this car except dealers on suburb ? Ho ! That's a racist affirmation no ? "I have a question that nobody seems to have an answer for. What do ordinary French people really think about Muslims?" Ordinary there are 3 kind of french (not muslims): -Lefters who "love" muslim because if not they think they are racist (yeah muslims is a race for them) -Righters or others who are very wary about them, but don't say anything because if they do, lefters call them as racists persons. On elections some of them vote Lepen, the others side don't vote or to righters because they think they are not lefters (with Chirac that's a big error!) -Politicians who have never lived with muslims (and to be honest with french ordinarry people too) who see all problems with them as a consequency of what doing "America", "Bush (when they can't say Americans" "Israel", "Sharon (when they can't say Israeliens) ", "Neo-liberalism", "globalisation economy (if they are righters)", Religion (exept islam of course), too many examples sorry ... Ideology instead of pragmatism, reality. So for them, they are the solution of this because they critize "the good things". A little speech and it's sufficiant. Don't say words means problems don'y exist. It's the same with journalist (who are good marxist believe me). I live in a Orwellian country. A decadent society. One day i leave France, maybe for USA. Need to be better in english, i know :) Thx for all americans supports. And believe me, lefters in your country are nothing compare to mine.
45 posted on 11/13/2005 7:25:46 AM PST by Tintin chez les soviets
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To: timsbella
So, when they say "youths", they mean youths of all different religions, not just one specific religion?

Catholic, Buhdists and Muslims alike are involved?

46 posted on 11/13/2005 7:28:15 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Tintin chez les soviets

Sorry, i reorganize :

Welcome to FR. Hope your car is ok."

My car is ok because i have a garage. Only poor people who live on "banlieus" are affected in fact. Bizarrely, "BMW", "Mercedes" or other "big cars" haven't this kind of problem. Well, who have this car except dealers on suburb ? Ho ! That's a racist affirmation no ?


"I have a question that nobody seems to have an answer for. What do ordinary French people really think about Muslims?"


Ordinary there are 3 kind of french (not muslims):
-Lefters who "love" muslim because if not they think they are racist (yeah muslims is a race for them)


-Righters or others who are very wary about them, but don't say anything because if they do, lefters call them as racists persons. On elections some of them vote Lepen, the others side don't vote or to righters because they think they are not lefters (with Chirac that's a big error!)


-Politicians who have never lived with muslims (and to be honest with french ordinarry people too) who see all problems with them as a consequency of what doing "America", "Bush (when they can't say Americans" "Israel", "Sharon (when they can't say Israeliens) ", "Neo-liberalism", "globalisation economy (if they are righters)", Religion (exept islam of course), too many examples sorry ...
Ideology instead of pragmatism, reality.

So for them, they are the solution of this because they critize "the good things". A little speech and it's sufficiant. Don't say words means problems don'y exist. It's the same with journalist (who are good marxist believe me).

I live in a Orwellian country. A decadent society.
One day i leave France, maybe for USA. Need to be better in english, i know :)

Thx for all americans supports. And believe me, lefters in your country are nothing compare to mine.


47 posted on 11/13/2005 7:28:16 AM PST by Tintin chez les soviets
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To: airborne

"So, when they say "youths", they mean youths of all different religions, not just one specific religion?"

That's not what they want to say, but what they definitely don't want to say.


48 posted on 11/13/2005 7:34:36 AM PST by Tintin chez les soviets
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To: dagnabbit

Graphs are an excellent suggestion - my husband is after me to use my photoshop powers for good (drumming fingers like Mr. Burns). I open this up to all posters of the scorecard. Dazzle me!


49 posted on 11/13/2005 7:36:17 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Beth528
The liberal media has tried to blame the riots in France and now Belgium and Germany on high unemployment and lack of jobs rather than admitting it was Muslims sensing a chance to tear something apart and shoot at police. This was a chance for Islam to test the system and the government it hates.

Right. The Left is desperately lying about the militant Islamic uprising in France to cover their own failure and ineptitude in recognizing and responding to this threat. They would have us believe it is about poverty, racism, or peugeotphobia. Even if this were the case, the Left would still be in a position of failure because the socialist Left can not produce more jobs or economic growth.

But you are absolutely correct. This is a cultural and religious based uprising against what is considered a soft target (France). France and the Left have failed the test.
50 posted on 11/13/2005 7:39:49 AM PST by etradervic (Able Danger, Peter Paul Campaign Fraud, Travelgate, Whitewater, Sandy Berger...demand answers!)
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To: Tintin chez les soviets

Welcome to FR and you just have to ignore all the repetitious slanders against the French, I think when people say negative things about the French they mean the French government and ruling elite and not the French people in general.

France is a complex country, like all countries. There is a south and a north, urban and rural, wealthy and ordinary. Ignore the jokes. You are very welcome here.


51 posted on 11/13/2005 7:41:09 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: Tintin chez les soviets

There are a lot of people here who lack your English skills. You'd be welcomed.


52 posted on 11/13/2005 7:45:19 AM PST by null and void (The enemy of my enemy is my tool...)
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To: Earthdweller

Wow. You need to make a T-shirt for your movie poster...
Reminds me of the old versions of Mad Magazine phony movie
posters...very good.


53 posted on 11/13/2005 7:45:48 AM PST by Getready ((fear not...))
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To: i_dont_chat
"I'm interested in the vbn (vehicle burned per night). "

I like that.

Maybe there are LESS vehicles to burn?
54 posted on 11/13/2005 7:53:40 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: timsbella

I wonder if the French ambassador is wondering what is
happening to his "sh**ty little country" now?

P.S. All Hollywood Publicity Hound Big-Mouth phoney braggarts
are now allowed to go to France without a passport. Fire
extinguishers preferred. Don't forget the Perrier and your
little French poodle(soon to be a real hot dog).
And you get to live in a country with ghettos, riots, and
now they are suppressing free speech
by not allowing meetings to occur. Mon Dieu!
Come on, get a move on...Get on...to the land of the free.
Let's see how many move over there now....or rather you'd stay
in Beverly Hills, or the Hamptons, or Santa Ynez...hmmmmm?


55 posted on 11/13/2005 7:54:51 AM PST by Getready ((fear not...))
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Someone should do a graph on this by day and by NVB. It could be fun and enlightening.
56 posted on 11/13/2005 7:54:55 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: i_dont_chat
The VBN is down and the lines at the gas station are shorter. See Mooselimbs are good for something!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

57 posted on 11/13/2005 7:56:46 AM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: All

Yes, the count is 7600+ cars killed, but what of the many many more that have been maimed for life? :)


58 posted on 11/13/2005 8:01:07 AM PST by Owen
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To: Owen

"Yes, the count is 7600+ cars killed, but what of the many many more that have been maimed for life? :)"

France should put cars on the Endangered Species list.


60 posted on 11/13/2005 8:04:27 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains." Bill Clinton [Veteran Sink Soldier])
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