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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 13 November 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 13 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/13/2005 5:20:09 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: MNJohnnie
Following is a list of 139 politicians that voted against the ban on partial birth abortion. In the aftermath of the 2001 terrorist attacks and all the talk about the sanctity of human life, ask yourself how any human being can defend the barbaric procedure of partial-birth abortion and if any person that defends this practice can be trusted with the public trust:

New York: Gary Ackerman (D), Timothy Bishop (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Eliot Engel (D), Maurice Hinchey (D), Steve Israel (D), Nita Lowey (D), Carolyn Maloney (D), Carolyn McCarthy (D), Gregory Meeks (D), Jerrold Nadler (D), Major Owens (D), Charles Rangel (D), Jose Serrano (D), Louise Slaughter (D), Chuck Schumer (D), Edolphus Towns (D), Nydia Velazquez, Anthony Weiner (D)

581 posted on 11/13/2005 9:24:36 AM PST by kcvl
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To: generationfixit
I think all this talk about McCain is really useless. He will not be president.

Agreed. McCain is 95% pro-life but only 5% republican.

582 posted on 11/13/2005 9:25:54 AM PST by anita
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To: generationfixit
I think all this talk about McCain is really useless.

I heard that he is having a hard time raising money because of his age. That doesn't stop the MSM from pushing his name (their hero!).

583 posted on 11/13/2005 9:26:48 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Polls now are nothing more than name recognition polls. When the rubber meets the road we will find a solid Conservative as candidate. Half of InSane's numbers will never actually vote.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

584 posted on 11/13/2005 9:26:49 AM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: TomGuy

Get away from the tired rhetoric of these hypocrites by playing a little Dixieland music...like I'm doing. Really cheers one UP.


585 posted on 11/13/2005 9:26:56 AM PST by Carolinamom (Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning......Psalm 30:5)
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To: kcvl

Answer: they're all RATs.


586 posted on 11/13/2005 9:27:51 AM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Proud member of the Water Bucket Brigade - MOOSEMUSS!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
The Dimms are convincing the American people that we can never trust intelligence again, and never be sure enough to go to war. Amazing.

Yes! Mostly I think they're pulling this crap to undermine and maybe impeach Bush and damage Republicans.

However, watching them today, it occurred to me that this also has the effect of restricting President Bush from crossing into Syria if necessary and/or going after the mullahs in Iran once we have enough troops freed up from active duty in Iraq--but also still there in a secure base in Iraq ready to go to Syria/Iran...

587 posted on 11/13/2005 9:28:24 AM PST by Sal (Has Fitzgerald trashed a proud career to become Ronnie Earl drenched in flop sweat?)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Sorry. WVA is red. I should have said blue senator, or something along those lines. My mistake.


588 posted on 11/13/2005 9:28:36 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: CyberAnt

Oops.... LOL Sorry...


589 posted on 11/13/2005 9:30:56 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: samantha
I agree.

The most frustrating thing I have experienced yet is the desire to defend my own position, and the President's, and my leader was silent!!! Very hard to engage in trench warfare (if the Internet can be compared to a trench) when you don't feel like the guys you are supporting are out there leading the cause. I am so glad that the GOP has found it to stand up and fight! All of us here are willing on one way or another to do our part, we just needed a strong leader to give us focus and a sense that our efforts aren't going to dissolve into the void with out doing any good.
I am sick of listening to the lies on the MSM! Time to fight back says I!
One thing the Snake Carville taught the Dims so so very well is: Lie all you want, just make sure you lie really really loud, do it all the time, and even though it is a lie, people will begin to believe it, particularly if the other side isn't fighting back. That is why the President's poll numbers have dropped! Sure as shootin they will go back up, but until certain things are done by the Administration, (the Borders come to mind! HINT HINT!!!) we are going to have a bit of a hard time getting the average GOP'er to hop back on the band wagon.

Hear me GOP Leadership??? Forget the Hispanic Voting block! Do the RIGHT THING and LEGAL residents of this Nation will support you!!!!!
590 posted on 11/13/2005 9:31:50 AM PST by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: cardinal4
No, she left it up to her brother...

No, she had a direct part in having them pardoned.

NewsMax.com Wires
Saturday, Feb. 24, 2001

NEW YORK (UPI) – The U.S. attorney's probe of the pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich has expanded to the four presidential pardons of four Jewish men convicted of stealing $40 million from taxpayers for a fake school.

Mary Jo White, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, is investigating a possible link between the last-minute pardon by former President Bill Clinton of four New Yorkers and votes for Hillary Clinton's Senate election last November.

Kalmen Stern, David Goldstein, Benjamin Berger and Jacob Elbaum were serving prison sentences of up to 6.5 years for bilking $40 million worth of student Pell grants and loans from government sources for a phony school in the Hasidic community of New Square, N.Y.

Sen. Clinton said that although she attended a White House meeting in which the pardon issue was raised, "I never made any view known."

Last month, she refused to talk about the controversial pardons of the four New York Hasidic Jews by her husband. New Square voted 1359-10 for the first lady – although other nearby Hasidic enclaves voted 3480-152 for Clinton's GOP opponent, former Rep. Rick Lazio.

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The pardon proponents claimed that the four deserved clemency because they didn't steal the money for themselves but for the Hasidic community.

Last week, White announced that her office and the FBI "have opened an investigation to determine whether there have been any violations of federal law" in the pardons of Rich and his partner, Pincus Green. Bill Clinton has denied that the pardons of Rich and Green – which White opposed – had anything to do with the money donated to Democrats by Rich's ex-wife, Denise Rich.

A federal grand jury in Manhattan has subpoenaed records detailing contributions to the Clinton presidential library as part of an investigation into the pardon of Rich as well as all government documents concerning the Rich pardon, it was reported by CNN Thursday. Through his lawyer, David Kendall, Clinton rejected a subpoena from the House Government Reform Committee for the names of all donors of more than $5,000 to the Arkansas presidential library.

591 posted on 11/13/2005 9:33:24 AM PST by kcvl
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To: rodguy911

I stopped to make breakfast for my houseguest and myself and take a phone call from a whiney Broward County Wilma victim, and am now way behind.


592 posted on 11/13/2005 9:33:48 AM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: evad

I think too many Democrat Senators and Representatives are run by their staff, and not the other way around. Democrats try to find someone who can win, as their only criteria, and then let their staffs form their opinions and positions. These guys just keep saying things that make no sense or are opposite from what they were saying before. They keep trying to be on both sides of each issue, and stand for nothing other than reelection.


593 posted on 11/13/2005 9:35:00 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: cardinal4
Rich's ex-wife, songwriter and socialite Denise Rich, is a generous Democratic donor who contributed at least $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's Senate bid. She also gave $450,000 to Bill Clinton's library foundation in Little Rock, Ark., prompting critics to question whether there was a money-for-pardons deal.

Currently, donations to presidential library foundations are not subject to campaign disclosure laws, and congressional investigators received limited access to the donor list to the Clinton library only after issuing subpoenas.



Hillary Signs Onto Pardon Reform

WASHINGTON, March 29, 2001

(AP) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday signed onto legislation to reform the pardon system, the issue that tainted her husband's exit from the White House and marred her own entrance into the Senate.

The bill by Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., would require those pressing for presidential pardons and commutations to register as lobbyists. The bill would also require disclosure for those who donate more than $5,000 to presidential libraries.

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"She looked over the proposal and believed it was a common-sense disclosure bill and decided to support it," Hillary Clinton spokesman Jim Kennedy said.

594 posted on 11/13/2005 9:36:15 AM PST by kcvl
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To: All
Jordan knows ALL too well about TERRORISTS!
In the late 1960s, tensions between Palestinians and the Jordanian government intensified; heavily armed Palestinian resistance elements (fedayeen) had created a virtual “state within a state” in Jordan, eventually controlling several strategic positions, including the oil refinery near Az Zarq. Jordan considered this a growing threat to its sovereignty and security and attempted to disarm the Palestinian militias. Open fighting erupted in June of 1970.

The final straw for King Hussein occurred when Palestinian terrorists flew three hijacked planes to Jordan and blew them up on September 12, 1970. Four days later, Hussein declared martial law. That same day, Arafat became commander of the Palestine Liberation Army (PLA), the regular military force of the PLO. In the ensuing civil war, the PLO had the active support of Syria, which invaded Jordan with a force of around 200 tanks. The fighting was mainly between the Jordanian army and the PLA; the U.S. Navy dispatched the Sixth Fleet to the eastern Mediterranean and Israel deployed troops to aid Hussein, if necessary. By September 24, the Jordanian army had defeated the Palestinian forces. Most of the Palestinian leadership, including Arafat (who disguised himself as a Kuwaiti official), fled to Syria, and later Lebanon, where they soon set about undermining the central government of that country.

mush more....

595 posted on 11/13/2005 9:36:53 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: tiredoflaundry; Alas Babylon!
Thanks for the thread. I do not post to it often but I sure do follow it!

Ditto!

596 posted on 11/13/2005 9:37:00 AM PST by Getsmart64
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To: CyberAnt
"If the intel was flawed.... then it was flawed in 1998"

Great catch here CyberAnt!

The rats don't seem to understand that a lie is either a lie or the truth it just doesn't morph at their will!!
597 posted on 11/13/2005 9:37:53 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: MNJohnnie

Good for you, but they think you will forget by next November. You should send them an e-mail of this thread and see what their reaction is. Some of us may not remember every little detail, but I will guarantee that lots of freepers will and they will be glad to post every little tidbit of their betrayal.


598 posted on 11/13/2005 9:40:10 AM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thank You, Tonkin.


599 posted on 11/13/2005 9:41:23 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Rummyfan
Maybe Senator Schumer will discuss all the candidates' credit reports!

Was it Mehlman who referred to Schmucky's breaking into Steele's credit reports? Whoever it was included the words, "identity theft"--it was great.

600 posted on 11/13/2005 9:41:42 AM PST by Sal (Has Fitzgerald trashed a proud career to become Ronnie Earl drenched in flop sweat?)
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