Posted on 11/12/2005 4:32:47 AM PST by Crackingham
We had gathered at the venerable University Philosophical Society of Trinity College, Dublin to debate the resolution: “This house believes that George W. Bush is a danger to world stability.”
But those tasked with defending the resolution were disinclined even to discuss what they clearly considered gross understatement. Instead, Patrick Cockburn, a British journalist, began by angrily accusing the United States of embarking upon an “old-fashioned imperial war' in Iraq and beyond.
As for terrorism, that he dismissed as “something people believe in like they believe in witchcraft. What does it mean?”
Though he was unsure of terrorism's definition, he harbored no doubts about who was responsible for it. President Bush, he said, “is not fighting terrorism, he is provoking it. That is the truth of the matter.” This brought vigorous applause from the students assembled in the stately hall.
Richard Downes, an Irish journalist, recited Humpty Dumpty. His point was that Iraq had been broken by Bush, whom he called a “maniacal egg killer.” This evoked gales of laughter.
He called the U.S. military “astonishingly incompetent.” Then he launched into a long story about an encounter he had once had with an African who believed the Irish smeared excrement (he used a more common term) on the walls of their homes. I think he was implying that people of one culture often misunderstand those of other cultures and that the Iraqis had been misunderstood by Bush and his ilk (though certainly not by enlightened people such as himself).
Craig J. Murray, formerly British ambassador to Uzbekistan, asserted that the crimes committed by that country's rulers are “subsidized by the government of George W. Bush.” Bush has done this, he said, for the benefit of Enron. The goal of Americans, he instructed the students, is to “get at the oil and gas so they can guzzle it.”
He added: “George Bush talks directly to God. He is the most dangerous religiously inspired fanatic in the world.” This, too, brought an enthusiastic ovation.
#14: No truer words have been spoken. My only fear is that the blinding white flash from the Islamofascist nuke will also vaporize myself, my family, my community, my culture, and my civilization, helped in part by fools such as the ones quoted in this article.
Can't say I've ever heard of him.
The Choudary debacle and now this! Trinity is really going to the dogs. Back when I was a clueless liberal (my very green salad days) I actually went down to study Ethnic and Racial Studies at Trinity. Every day it was a protest march about deported Nigerians here! An anti-Bush rally there! Im so embarrassed about the whole thing I tell people I did Political Science instead....
Well, then how do these enlightened Irish and British reconcile Prod-Catholic terror in their "Bush provokes terror" mode? And for the boob that couldnt explain what terror meant, perhaps Lord Mountbatten can provide an example..Oh wait a minute! He cant, a friggin terrorist blew him up!
>>>Richard Downes, an Irish journalist . . . Patrick Cockburn, a British journalist . . .<<<
The most sinister and dangerous truth in this article is that so-called "journalists" would have such pathologically unstable beliefs about the U. S. and President Bush. We see this same pathology in many of our MSM journalists, for example, Dan Rather, Mary Mapes, David Gregory, Terry Moran, Brian Williams, Katie Couric, John Roberts, nearly everyone at CNN, PBS and NPR, etc..
The name sounds familiar.... Something to do with 'Morning Ireland', perhaps?
That would be just a few years ago? I'm just asking because I'm a twenty-something myself!
I was left-wing in secondary school, but started migrating rightwards, maybe around the age of 16 or so.
you are right, that is a few years ago, Im 27 now. Thank the lord I wised up and migrated rightwards! I think it was my experience at Trinity that really prompted it. All those bloody rallies.....
I went to a technical college in the west, so things were a bit different - but the Student's Union made me sick, all their protests and agitation - while ordinary students just simply wanted to get on with their courses!!
I won't answer your "baiting" and silly questions, but the answer to this one is simple:
The US for reasons that escape me continues to try to save and feed all the ingrates of the world.
Respectful treatment as equals is earned not demanded.
Unfortunately, most Euroeunuchs continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
What do you mean "we"?
We were in the minority against the Nazis too, and singlehanded in defeating the "Evil Empire".
Words are cheap...
Good Grief! Sounds like ... hell!
It was all very "right on" and mind bogglingly earnest....
"We" means you and I. A majority in Europe and America both says that the Iraq war was wrong. As far as I remember, the US had a coalition of 110 or so countries that have declared war on Nazi Germany, with the hardest enemy for Germany having been the Soviet Union.
I didn´t asked you these "silly questions" but SeaSalt who still hasn´t answered. Don´t try to defend his undefensible arrogance.
Respect doesn´t have to be earned. Everybody deserves respect unless the behaviour shows different. Or how do you greet strangers?
Respect doesn´t have to be earned. Everybody deserves respect unless the behaviour shows different. Or how do you greet strangers?
Sorry to join in the talk out of blue, but what you describe is courtesy rather than respect. Courtesy is owed as opposed to respect, which is earned rather than automatically given.
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