By Jimmy Burns and Roger Blitz
Published: November 11 2005 02:00 | Last updated: November 11 2005 02:00
Posted on 11/12/2005 4:26:25 AM PST by milestogo
Muslims warn of reaction to terror measures
By Jimmy Burns and Roger Blitz
Published: November 11 2005 02:00 | Last updated: November 11 2005 02:00
Tony Blair's hopes of securing broad political support for his anti-terrorist strategy suffered another setback yesterday when key areas of policy came under attack from leading representatives of the Muslim community.
A Muslim working group set up by the Home Office to advise on ways to improve integration and tackle extremism following the London bombings in July criticised the government's "misguided over-emphasis" on a strategy of "counter-productive counter-terrorism". It also said British foreign policy was "a key contributory factor" in motivating extremists.
With ministers and police still smarting from the defeat of their proposal for a 90-day pre-charge detention limit, the Home Office was reminded that many Muslims regard existing anti-terrorism provisions as unjust and potentially alienating, contrary to the pro-government votes cast on Wednesday by some Muslim MPs.
The working group summarised its specific concerns: "There was a strong feeling that the present regime of anti-terrorism provisions was already excessive, that it was badly implemented and that it was resulting in 'counter-productive counter-terrorism' - in some cases, even used as propaganda to radicalise Muslims."
Mr Blair's plans to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir and al-Muhajiroun, two radical Islamist groups, would send them underground and make them "more problematic in the future", the working group added. It echoed calls from several Muslim groups for a public inquiry into the July terrorist attacks and said plans for a new offence of "glorifying" terrorism would lead to a "significant chill factor in the Muslim community".
It also urged the government to understand the impact of foreign policy on Muslim opinion. "British foreign policy, especially in the Middle East, cannot be left unconsidered as a factor in the motivations of criminal radical extremists," it said. "We believe it is a key contributory factor.''
Last night, Sher Khan of the Muslim Council of Britain, praised Sadiq Khan, the human rights lawyer, for voting against the 90-day detention limit when three other Muslim Labour MPs, Mohamed Sarwar, Khalid Mahmood and Shahid Malik, voted in favour.
"The MPs that stood their ground showed they were in tune with the grassroots opinion, both of the Muslim and wider communities," Mr Khan told the Muslim News.
Lord Ahmed, a Labour peer and government adviser on integration, told the Financial Times he would vote against any extension of the 14-day limit when it came to the House of Lords, although he predicted that a majority of parliament would hold at 28 days.
"The government needs to rethink its spending priorities," he said. "Even a fraction of what is going into financing the police could be used constructively in conflict resolution, creating jobs and opportunities and preventing extremism taking hold among (Muslim) youth."
No idea what you're on about?
When I was in high school in the fifties, the guys were telling the girls that the way to avoid rape was to "relax and enjoy it".
Britons! TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY!!!
It is over analyzing to remove the one common factor, and bend over backwards to invent populations and events that don't exist to describe your point.
You are short one rioting group of North African Christians my friend. The problem may be the same - but I bet the response would be different. We are discussing the response.
In fact, outside North Ireland, do you have any similar activities by any other groups? 7,000 cars? Flying planes into office buildings (that are only still standing because prior bomb attacks failed)? Iam typing with one hand, else Icould list and list.They are in a set of one - no competitors.
There is one common factor. Accept it. That is no "paradigm" - that is common sense.
Huge distinctiom between American Blacks and French Muslims. Muslim's have failed in their chosen country, and want to blame the incumbents for their failure. I hate to point it out - but a common thread of many Muslim issues is blaming the West for their problems. Again - model fits. And by the way - the key point there was Muslims not adapting to the home country culture - being responsible for their own failure - not the relationship with A Blacks.
France is/was Christian country. When I visit, I do not expect them to speak English.
You are welcome to your opinion, but to validate it you need to come up with another immagrant group that has acted similarly - no supposed groups - real ones burning real cars and blowing up real civilians. Then you need them to start international terrorist attacks for 40 plus years.
The situation is complex. The response is consistent. Muslims attack their neighbors. Religion is not a minor contributing factor - it is the prime variable.
LittleGreenFootballs.com - Weblog: "INDONESIAN ISLAMIC GROUPS AGAINST LIBERALIZATION" (SNIPPET: "About a week ago, Indonesia’s highest Muslim council issued a fatwa forbidding liberalization of Islam. Today thousands of people representing 31 Muslim groups including Hizb ut-Tahrir turned out to support the ruling.") (August 5, 2005)
INTELLIGENCE.org.il - Special Information Bulletin - INTELLIGENCE AND TERRORISM INFORMATION CENTER at the Center for Special Studies (C.S.S.): "Radical Islamic activity in Uzbekistan: the latest events in Andijan and their connection with the Islamic Liberation Party" (May 16, 2005) (http://www.intelligence.org.il/sp/5_05/img/u_1.jpg )
"littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15870_Hizb_ut-Tahrir_Teams_Up_With_Newsweek&only" (May 16, 2005)
INTERNET-HAGANAH.US - Haganah Reading Room: "HIZB UT-TAHRIR" - Part II (December 10, 2004)
INTERNET-HAGANAH.US - Haganah Reading Room: "HIZB UT-TAHRIR" - Part I (May 14, 2003)
GLOBAL SECURITY.org - Military: "HIZB UT-TAHRIR AL-ISLAMI (ISLAMIC PARTY OF LIBERATION)
JIHAD WATCH.org (THE GUARDIAN): "'The West needs to understand it is inevitable: Islam is coming back'" (November 11, 2004)
Jamestown.org - GLOBAL TERRORISM ANALYSIS - Spotlight on Terror: "INSIDE HIZB UT-TAHRIR: AN INTERVIEW WITH JALALUDDIN PATEL, LEADER OF HIZB UT-TAHRIR IN THE UK" (August 11, 2004)
Google Search Term: "JALALUDDIN PATEL"
BBC NEWS: "HIZB UT TAHRIR" (Last updated August 27, 2003)
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