Posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:14 PM PST by ncountylee
CLICHY-SOUS-BOIS, Paris (AP) - Night after night of rioting across France in which children as young as 10 have hurled firebombs and torched cars has prompted many people to ask: Where were the parents?
The rampaging in the impoverished, mainly immigrant neighbourhoods underscores not only tensions in French society but also troubles in the homes where many of the rioters have grown up.
Many parents are struggling to make ends meet, leaving them little time for their children. They often can hardly communicate with their sons and daughters: Many parents are not French citizens and never learn to speak French, while their children don't learn the language of their ancestors.
Some parents even blame the recent riots on a French law that prohibits them from hitting their kids, which they say renders them powerless to assert control.
The government wants parents to be more responsible. But aid groups wonder if parents even know what their children are up to.
Fatna, an Algerian immigrant who agreed to speak on condition her last name not be used, insists on the innocence of her 21-year-old son, who was sentenced to two months in jail for a role in the riots.
Most of the people interviewed would only allow their first names to be used, and even then only reluctantly. They appeared worried about drawing the attention of their neighbours.
"Life is very difficult here," Fatna said in Arabic. She, like her husband, is illiterate and doesn't speak French despite having lived here for more than 25 years.
Fatna said her son, Khaled, was at home when the first riots broke out in their hometown, Clichy-Sous-Bois, on Oct. 27. But at 10 p.m. the next day he went to the local teahouse as he did every night during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan
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25 years and can't speak French!
Gee, ya think?
I'd imagine this piece was produced to quell the inconvenient questions that French citizens are beginning to ask. These parents know exactly what their "children" are up to.
"Its the culture, stupid"!
The French cops are afraid even to come into those neighborhoods - how are they going to stop some Arab from hitting his kids? This stuff is preposterous.
Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP )? Click this picture:
No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.
Then, there is this little problem...
For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:
Kindly note tagline:
As opposed to, say, stabbing them to death for dating an infidel.
Losing? Lost.
Where she lives there is no day-to-day necessity to speak French.
"Some parents even blame the recent riots on a French law that prohibits them from hitting their kids, which they say renders them powerless to assert control."
Son you must follow the rules.
okay dad.
Son, don't lie to me again.
okay dad.
Son, do not sit on your little brother's head again or I will... I will.. turn the tv off. Wait, no then I'd actually have to parent you. Son just don't sit on your brother.
okay dad.
Son, don't put your hand on the stove.
okay dad.
Son, no running out in the street.
okay dad.
...
you mean this isn't the way parenting goes??????
(okay for some kids it is but... in my experience it is the ones who watch their older sibilings screw up over and over.)
notice the author chose the word "hitting" as opposed to spanking. the two are equivalent to the left.
/sarcasm
This same problem exists here in America. Ain't multi-culturalism grand?
It's the result of the welfare state usurping the traditional roles that parents should be playing in their kid's lives.
"Some parents even blame the recent riots on a French law that prohibits them from hitting their kids, which they say renders them powerless to assert control"
There is no French law against spanking.
There is not even a law against teachers spanking children. And they DO.
There is a law in France against CHILD ABUSE (as in: battering children with fists, whipping them, etc.).
So, the whole pretext here: "We can't hit our kids, therefore we are powerless", in the context of a country where spanking is legal and widely used, is "We can't beat our kids nearly to death, and this renders us powerless."
Presumably because you can beat your kids to death in some countries, but not France.
There is another phantom idea out there making the rounds on this thread that France is like Sweden, where all spanking is outlawed.
France is nothing like Sweden.
Then she should fit right in to any Islamic hell-hole she ultimately gets deported to. They have the same work qualifications.
- 25 years and can't speak French!-
Un-freakin-believable!!
Agreed. And your use of quotation marks around "children" is right on the money.
Why should any religion of piece whose adherents send their "children" (twenty-something males) out to die with explosives strapped around their midsections have any qualms about sending their "children" out every single night to smash buildings and torch cars?
Sniveling, weasely "parents", all of them.
Leni
Oh please....that's sort of impossible. What, the parents NEVER spoke to the children?
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