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Insurance woes, illegal aliens linked
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/10/05 | Kevin FReking - ap

Posted on 11/10/2005 10:06:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The increase in the number of people without health insurance has occurred largely because of illegal immigration, a study found.

Researchers at the RAND Corporation, a nonpartisan think tank, analyzed data received from about 2,400 people in Los Angeles County in 2000 and 2001, and applied that information to the nation's undocumented population at large.

The number of uninsured adults in the United States grew by about 8.7 million between 1980 and 2000. If the trend for Los Angeles County held true for the rest of the country, about a third of that growth can be attributable to illegal immigrants.

The study does not diminish the severity of the problem of the uninsured. Nor does it call for some sort of health insurance coverage for illegals.

"That's where I don't go," said James Smith, a senior economist at RAND. "That's not a scientific question."

Rather, the study shows that any meaningful impact on reducing the number of uninsured has to take into account the issue of illegal immigration, he said.

"There are pros and cons of providing insurance to the undocumented that should be debated openly," he said. "Undocumented immigrants make up too much of the issue to be ignored or hidden by polite silence."

The study also indicates that, since the number of illegal immigrants is growing rapidly, "we can expect that the uninsured population is going to grow rapidly as well," said another study co-author, Neeraj Sood.

The researchers said about one in five illegal immigrant adults have some health insurance coverage through their work, but virtually none of them purchase it on their own. Also, they rarely make use of public insurance through programs such as Medicaid.

The study was published in the journal Health Affairs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cantdriveworthmierda; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration; insurance; linked; woes
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1 posted on 11/10/2005 10:06:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 11/10/2005 10:06:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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3 posted on 11/10/2005 10:09:17 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge
This (illegal immigration) not only applies to health insurance, but auto insurance as well. Have you noticed your auto insurance increase at all lately? If so, chances are it's due to your "uninsured motorists coverage" - this coverage pays for your medical expenses if you're hit by an uninsured driver.

Here in AZ, 4 out of 10 drivers have no insurance. I'm willing to bet 90% of the time, they are illegals. I know several people who were hit by an illegal with no insurance, and had to take a hit on their own insurance.

It is just sad.

4 posted on 11/10/2005 10:10:37 AM PST by arizonarachel (finally married...to F7OShawn...)
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To: NormsRevenge

--school crisis, prison overcrowding, welfare rolls, you name it--illegals are the basic problem--


5 posted on 11/10/2005 10:10:38 AM PST by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've been saying this for years - everytime I hear someone say "40 million uninsured Americans" I say, "most of them aren't Americans..."


6 posted on 11/10/2005 10:13:08 AM PST by 11th_VA (Geezee Freepin Peezee ...)
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To: NormsRevenge
The real impact of illegals on the price of health care insurance is the way prices hospitals bill to insured patients are inflated to cover the cost of free services given to illegals. It's a hidden tax.

That resulting price increase is a large component of why so many American citizens go uninsured.

7 posted on 11/10/2005 10:15:29 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I know good Americans who have been laid off, who have no health insurance. But if they were illegals, they could go to the PA welfare office and get 200 bucks rights away just because they're illegals.


8 posted on 11/10/2005 10:20:25 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bienvenidos a Amexica. Oprima el numero dos para Ingles.


9 posted on 11/10/2005 10:24:59 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NormsRevenge

Also, they rarely make use of public insurance through programs such as Medicaid.
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Contrary to the beliefs of some, illegal immigrants come here to work, not to mooch off government benefits. The sooner this debate is settled the better, and even if it were true, this would be a problem of socialism, not of immigration.


10 posted on 11/10/2005 10:31:14 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: NormsRevenge

-"There are pros and cons of providing insurance to the undocumented that should be debated openly,"-

'Scuze me, but what are the "pros" in terms of benefits to American citizens? Because I can't think of any.


11 posted on 11/10/2005 10:33:02 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Ciexyz

A man waiting to be treated at Mass General said to the nurse at the desk that he should just say he's an Illegal Alien and get treated for free like the crowd in the ER he was in. A Social Worker ran out of her office after overhearing him and told him "It is Illegal in Massachusetts to impersonate an Undocumented Immigrant." I bet A.G. Tom Reilly would enforce that law.


12 posted on 11/10/2005 10:34:05 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: NormsRevenge
This article understates the problem caused by illegals and health insurance because it only counts the uninsured illegals.

By flooding the market with an infinite supply of cheap labor, employers are relieved of the need to compete to hire or retain good employees. A lot of jobs that in the past would have included health benefits no longer do because the employers feel no need to incur this expense. As a result less citizens have insurance.

13 posted on 11/10/2005 10:35:21 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Pew Hispanic Center in Washington reports that there are 10.3 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. today. More than half, 57%, are from Mexico. The largest concentration - 25% of the total - is in California.

From 2000 to 2004, 2.4 million Mexicans immigrated into the United States, 85% illegally.

We need to consider that our welfare state subsidizes and encourages illegal immigration and distorts social behavior in the fact that any illegal woman giving birth here produces a welfare-qualifying U.S. citizen. Fertility rates among Mexican immigrant women are 40% higher than among women in Mexico.

Source

14 posted on 11/10/2005 10:36:18 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge
Don't be such a racist! Those poor illegal ali-- err...undocumented workers are only raising the insurance rates that Americans are too lazy to raise!
15 posted on 11/10/2005 10:38:47 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


16 posted on 11/10/2005 10:41:45 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: massgopguy
A Social Worker ran out of her office after overhearing him and told him "It is Illegal in Massachusetts to impersonate an Undocumented Immigrant."

The Good Lord, in His divine wisdom, saw fit not to have me in that room. I'd have ripped that idiot broad a new one.

Besides...how is she going to prove he's not an illegal alien? Last I heard, they were undocumented.

Stupid bitch.

17 posted on 11/10/2005 10:42:03 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: blackie
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders! Support our Minutemen Patriots!

And don't forget to let our leaders know that we're sick and tired of their catering to illegals!

The only way they'll notice is when it hits them in the pocket books. So feel free to use this for your next donation!


18 posted on 11/10/2005 10:44:17 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: Prime Choice

I will have to print some of these up and mail them back to the RNC


19 posted on 11/10/2005 10:45:52 AM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: BurbankKarl
I will have to print some of these up and mail them back to the RNC

Be my guest! Feel free to use the larger, printer-friendly version too!   :o)

20 posted on 11/10/2005 10:47:12 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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