[A CA Guy]

Bullcr@p, he had to fight the union machine and 200 million bucks against him. Even Reagan lost to the union machine 38 years ago and his accomplishments that later included the Presidency, ending the evil empire and the Reagan revolution all proved he was not dead in the water from his California loss.

Give Arnold the credit that he fought a fight against this machine.
They were so afraid of him they spent tens of millions on ruining the governor's image before even starting on the propositions and they are now broke and owe money.

We do this again in 2006 and we more than likely will win, because no way they can raise the same cash, and I'd rather they spend their millions on defense rather than trying to push a Bustamante down our throat.

Arnold had guts and did the job he was expected to do.
Anyone who are going to disrespect him after is effort to help us are walking piles of human debris and part of the problem with California, not the solution.

He fought a reasonable fight with what he had to use and I respect his effort.

There is no Arnold problem here, it is a government employee union problem spending tons of money others didn't have to fight back with.

[hsalaw]

Ditto to everything you said. I'm sick and tired of this "oh woe is us; it's the END TIMES!" cr*p from Republicans who are too ready to chuck it in just because we've had a setback. Arnold picked a fight with the unions who have a stranglehold on California's politics and finances, and ran them to the poorhouse. They didn't get anything they didn't have before, and they're financially a lot worse.

[Brian Allen]

<< Give Arnold the credit that he fought a fight against this machine.
They were so afraid of him they spent tens of millions on ruining the governor's image before even starting on the propositions and they are now broke and owe money.

We do this again in 2006 and we more than likely will win, because no way they can raise the same cash, and I'd rather they spend their millions on defense rather than trying to push a Bustamante down our throat.

Arnold had guts and did the job he was expected to do.
Anyone who are going to disrespect him after is effort to help us are walking piles of human debris and part of the problem with California, not the solution.
He fought a reasonable fight with what he had to use and I respect his effort.

There is no Arnold problem here, it is a government employee union problem spending tons of money others didn't have to fight back with. >>

Amen.

Thank you.

And bring on 2006!

I for one am suited up, willing and waiting.

[Left2Right]

You nailed it on the head. Especially prop 75 was a longshot, but at least it was close, and to even see on the ballot was stupendous. I have to belong to an onion to have my job (I could choose to not belong, but then the onion still gets to take the same amount of money from my paycheck anyway), and the stinky onion leaders make me sick.

This fight is just getting started...

Gotta luv it!

[Paul C. Jesup]

Bullcr@p, he had to fight the union machine and 200 million bucks against him. Even Reagan lost to the union machine 38 years ago and his accomplishments that later included the Presidency, ending the evil empire and the Reagan revolution all proved he was not dead in the water from his California loss.

Give Arnold the credit that he fought a fight against this machine. They were so afraid of him they spent tens of millions on ruining the governor's image before even starting on the propositions and they are now broke and owe money.

And what we learned from this was that Arnold took a page from Reagan and forced his enemies into bankrupcy, like when Reagan bankrupted the USSR.

This may a victory for the Republicans in the long run.

[Jimmy Valentine]

Agree. Whatever else, he fought hard against an accumulation of special interests that are going to bankrupt California in a couple of years if they have their way.

I hope these initiatives go back on the ballot in 2006.

[eureka!]

Re#3 Yep. 100 million from the unions ain't chump change. Money spent on one thing can't be spent on another. Also, don't forget the recent split amongst the unions over $$ for 'rats versus $$ for recruitment

The sad part is that this round was entirely winnable. Turnout on both sides was down, however, the 1.3 million rat advantage in CA and expected union turnout was the death knell. Also, the MSM was running "voters p*ssed at special election" and "Arnold's propositions doomed" articles based on Field polls. Why vote when it won't matter is the mindset of so many. Especially when there was nothing else on the ballot to draw them there--except the parental notification proposition which really surprised me. In any event, I do hope we get a do over...